It’s going well then Ozmates???? Much of the rest of the world opening up and you’re still p1ssing around with pointless lockdowns! Laughable!!!

It was clear quite early on that Covid was largely a disease of institutions. Care home residents comprised c50% of all deaths, despite making up a fraction of the population, and hospital infections have been the major driver of transmission rates. Citadel protection was vital. God only knows what has been going on in Oz and NZ. The world is opening up and in NSW, they’re shooting dogs, gassing kids and firing a ton rounds at tax payers. Sure, maybe there was a case for restrictions when Covid was new and unknown, but that point of reasonable as was passed long ago.

Scotty forgot to order enough vaccines, that's all there is to say about it. The states are paying for the federal government's failings.

Yeah! but then the rest of the world is vaccinated, we are not, apparently it wasn't a race according to Slomo. Doing our best to catch up.

and for their own politics. Like Queensland. And their big scare campaign on AstraZeneca. Knowing full well it was Morrison’s weak point. Utterly f cking disgraceful.

Well said but it's way too late for common sense now like other countries, we have too many power trip lunatics in control being manipulated by un-elected bureaucrats behind the scenes, essentially we are F**ked!

it could have been prevented if the federal government didn't handball responsibility to the states from the start. He and Hunt could have continued the narrative but instead when the AZ reports started to come out they hid away. It's just like when NSW started to fall, Scomo didn't speak publicly for five whole days but was happy to get in front of the mic in May when Melbourne went into lockdown. All of it is bull**** politics.

Correct for 1 year ago, unfortunately that info is not correct anymore, the rate of those in ICU during delta is up to 25% under 40s. I know personally 3 families in the US that have had their under 5 year old in ICU for up to a week, not just for observation. Severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhea, they have to be sedated and put on fluids as they refuse to eat, drink or even talk, that is how covid affects them. These were completely healthy active toddlers. BTW something not mentioned here is that Delta does have different symptoms to Alpha strain.

Entertainment break.

Hahaaar! now that's a gold standard

One thing NSW has achieved in glorious fashion is having relegated "gold standard" now to a symbol of overconfidence and pride before the fall.

Another bizarre post. I don't have any idea what you are on about.

That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown

Not sure what you mean by youngsters, no vaccines are approved for under 12 yet in the UK or USA, and not expected for another 4-6 months.

As for higher mortality of vaccinated we covered that way back 100 posts ago, that's just skewed data as the vaccine does give many people total immunity, the few that get severe breakthrough have a higher rate only. The UK study also found that some of the Unvaxed were on their second go at covid, ie had been reinfected, so had some immunity. There is no doubt that vaccination was proved to be 80-97% effective and preventing, and reducing symptoms and death rate.

Also be very careful when reading data out of context, as in what level of vaccination did they have, the Israeli study on Pfizer had people that only had one shot at the start, so vaccinated was from 1 shot to two shots and minimum 2 weeks post full vaccination. It was quite clear in the Israeli study that within 2 weeks of the first shot the infection rate was similar to unvaxed and by 45 days, or complete vaccination + 2 weeks the vaccinated cohort virtually had no infection and similar drop in hospitalisation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55718553

Covid passes seem far from dead, only news about them at the moment is Boris stuffed up some legislation with regard to forcing nightclubs to only allow vaccinated patrons in. Otherwise their use for travel and other things is ongoing. Otherwise you will need a NHS Covid pass to go clubbing from September.

Better brush on the Australian Constitution.

this absolute stroker doesn’t even know the difference between “your” and “you’re”. Doubtful he,or she, could contribute anything of any use to the thread.

I think the reinfection rate was only like 4% of cases.

Only 753 cases today :D

To the contrary:

I outlined early, Australia's COVID response being a civil defence failure and a template for coercion or defeat at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. This all exacerbated by foolish State parochialism's who seem to weigh up the economic benefits of a vassal state status with the CCP versus a federated Australia.

COVID is round one with the CCP. Round two will likely be a weakened Australian economy and a deteriorating strategic outlook.

Get vaccinated and hide under your bed.

Then if I have made an unfair accusation then I apologise, the thread indeed the site is hijacked by call centre commies with the sole purpose to spread misinformation, divide and collapse our democracy. If that where to happen they will say, see democracy doesn't work, you need our peace keeping forces. not likely to happen I know but that's what they do.

Round two as you describe it would just mean back to how it was 20 years ago before china opened it's population to the world. Not ideal but not catastrophic either.

Can we come back to reality now?

All I'm seeing is some real insight into some paranoid delusions that need to be addressed by a professional.

CCP conspiracies, next will be lizardmen and aliens are making the vaccines. It all feels like we have regressed to the 1950s.

Meanwhile China stomped on Delta and ate it for breakfast....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nt-on-steroids

43, I’m not sure that I would be believing a) China, and b) Bloomturd. Two sources that have been synonymous with telling many many porkies.

While I agree with the sentiment, there's obviously some belief in some weird and wonderful things by what is contained in these posts, China and Bloomberg seem credible compared.

If only they had the "Gold Standard" integrity of Rupert or Nine.

Chief health officer Kerry Chant has warned NSW that masks may still be needed 'for years' to battle COVID-19. Woohoo. How exciting that will be! It’s a great day to be a NSW resident.

She's at least being more realistic and sensible about it than McGoose, Anna Stay-Away or Dan...And from comments of various medico's overseas, she's probably right!

"Zero Covid! Queenslander's haven't given up on it! Look how great we're doing, you can go to school, the pub, etc..." - Anna Stay-Away's comments today...
"Zero Covid! I will not tolerate any Covid cases or deaths in WA on my watch!" - McGoose's comments a couple days ago.
"Zero Covid! My never-ending supply of lockdowns and arresting kiddies in the playground can make it happen!" Dan Andrews' comments today

Then there's the reality of vaccination and actually living with the Delta strain, as demonstrated by several jurisdictions overseas - including the ones that Premier's like McGowan like to overlook because they've got vaccination rates above that to which he agreed he would open the border's, ease restrictions, move to more targeted lockdowns etc..

It is here to stay, it will get in, no matter how hard you try to keep it out, and case numbers will blow out, no matter what you do - unless you plan to lockdown your capital city for every individual case Mr McGowan??

To follow up a few minutes later with the below, makes the above the funniest or most Sino-ignorant post in some time. The CCP always stomps out COVID. Along with anyone suggesting otherwise.

97+% vaccination rates
 

Reported on the ABCs page "Tracking Australia's COVID vaccine rollout"

As of 24 August, 97.85% of ACT 70+ year olds have had their first vaccination.

If other Australians are as committed, Covid will become (almost) a non-issue

Are these the paper masks that the WHO says are not effective? No medical standard used in their production.
Pure theatre.

Not so crazy. Certain threads have posters whose main activity seems to be to defend the CCP or Russia, and attack the west.
Indeed Russia is believed to be have been recently busted actively spreading disinformation through social media- not the west is short of useful idiots already.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....g-57928647.amp

And I just marvel - actually despair - at the number of people I see with their nose hanging out of top!

Might as well wear it on an elbow.

Not promoting or saying the CCP or Russian government are good guys. However the links are to a Russian businessman, not to Russia in general, yes that is a sort of smoking gun, but the same disinformation comes out of similar businessmen in Australia like Palmer and Co. Just because Palmer is a raging lunatic does not mean all of Australia is. A lot of whacko anti-vax ideas come out of the USA and other "western" places including Australia, and yes there are most likely some underhanded international efforts going on as well. Within Australia we have Neo-Nazi groups and such linked with other organised groups that revel in anarchy and will spread this info without any push from a foreign nation, do not underestimate how much reach and finance these groups can muster. Then you have religious and other groups, that can be just as devious as they know the direct message from "god" can seem like lunatics words so they hide behind false scientific information.

End game is, that's your irrational 10% who are non vaxers. You won't be able to change their narrative, just look out for it and be wary of it.

Do masks work?


The best example I've seen this whole pandemic.

It's about 17% and they are not necessarily anti vaxers, they are anti authority the "don't tell me what I can and cannot do brigade"

Gladys is in serious trouble now, the worst thing you can do is wave the freedom carrot at your population. Just within our own ranks those from NSW firmly believe freedom is imminent.
The Premiers must hold the line right up to the moment you change it, no hesitation. If she doesn't do it now there will be riots akin to those we saw in the US on the capital, right when her health system is about to be overwhelmed.

We're still not coming Gladys.

Well QLD and WA have gone to a new low with their political jargon. QLD closing to NSW, ACT and Vic due hotel quarantine issues, guess they’re not fit to cope with covid and WA canceling and not accepting any NSW residents on compassionate grounds. What a mess Australia is, Americans thought Trump was bad look at Aussie politicians.

I really wish NSW would open up internationally and leave QLD and WA behind to keep their own bubble.

In the words of the chief obsfucator Scott Morrison; “it’s not my problem”. Now, where’s my Hillsong invitation and my healing hands…

If it’s any consolation, McGowan’s extended family is from NSW. What’s good for the goose……

That is brilliant. Will be saving that for future use.

Not just WA & Qld
 

WA, SA, Qld, & Tas all seem to have the same border restrictions.

shhhh that goes against their political bias.


(Mods will delete this like all my other political posts)