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SOPS 19th Dec 2020 10:30


Originally Posted by thorn bird (Post 10950130)
Isn't it time to tell McGowan to piss off and form his own Country, provided of course they take the word Australia out of their name, because Australian they aint.

McGowanstan has a nice ring to it, or perhaps the Southern Socialist republic of McGowanstan.

All I heard out of his mouth was [email protected]#$K the rest of you, We alright Jack the rest of you can F#[email protected] off. Lets see how well he does without the rest of us propping him up.

Actually .. most people in the West are very happy.

dr dre 19th Dec 2020 10:32


Originally Posted by jrfsp (Post 10950134)
Doesnt sound like you're familiar with the economics of this country......

Nor is he familiar with definitions of words.

For future reference, for everyone here and elsewhere, this is the dictionary definition of the word Socialism:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

As no Australian State Government, including WA, wholly owns the means of production, distribution and exchange (the % of private sector employees is around 13%) then no Australian state, including WA, is even remotely socialist.

wheels_down 19th Dec 2020 10:34

Boat Race now gone, Victoria will brief media in the morning. Looks like itís over for the next few weeks.

Big blow to the QF group here who have considerable capacity at the moment. This is going to hurt.

Turnleft080 19th Dec 2020 11:33

Speaking of sport may well be all the Aust and India cricketers go straight to Melbourne and Melbourne could hold 2 test matches back to back.

WingNut60 19th Dec 2020 12:49


Originally Posted by thorn bird (Post 10950130)
Isn't it time to tell McGowan to piss off and form his own Country, provided of course they take the word Australia out of their name, because Australian they aint.

McGowanstan has a nice ring to it, or perhaps the Southern Socialist republic of McGowanstan.

All I heard out of his mouth was [email protected]#$K the rest of you, We alright Jack the rest of you can F#[email protected] off. Lets see how well he does without the rest of us propping him up.

Be careful what you wish for, boyo.

WingNut60 19th Dec 2020 12:52


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 10950203)
Speaking of sport may well be all the Aust and India cricketers go straight to Melbourne and Melbourne could hold 2 test matches back to back.

Am I the only one who thinks that all out for 36 has a fishy smell about it?

Climb150 19th Dec 2020 13:20

Am I right in thinking they don't know where the Northern Beaches outbreak originated? The media is usually very quick to blame people returning from overseas or cleaners working at quarantine hotels. The infected hotel shuttle driver doesn't seem to have any connection so where did it come from?

Australopithecus 19th Dec 2020 13:46


Originally Posted by Green.Dot (Post 10950131)
I have full faith in NSW doing a good job- we are on the same page here.

Regarding mandating mask use, Iíve only got quals as a pilot so this is the best risk analogy Iíve got:

If you have windshear on the ATIS for takeoff do you?

A: Use normal takeoff figures because it doesnít look too bad outside (people who wonít wear a mask because they donít like the feel of them).

Or

B: Use full thrust with windshear figures and give yourself the best chance possible (Mandate mask use until they are certain itís under control, knowing more people will wear them if they have to).


Or opt for:

C. Delaying takeoff until the hazard has passed. The corollary here is of course mandating a hard lock-down until either the threat has passed or is judged to be controlled with low risk. Dice-rolling is only entertaining as a spectator sport, not really when you have actual skin in the game and the rewards donít outweigh the risks.


This event, while awkwardly timed, was almost always going to happen. A response any less than we had a few weeks ago would be both a slap in the face of the other states and a week-kneed, mamby-pamby undoing of the hard yards we have all slogged through until now. Cannot conjure any more cliches right now, but you get the gist...


Angle of Attack 19th Dec 2020 14:15

Climb 150,
They don’t know but seeing as it’s a US strain you can bet it’s yet another Hotel Quarantine escape. While we import cases into substandard hotel quarantine systems this will repeat again and again. Unless there is a change of policy to get these people into remote quarantine centres 2021 will be a complete repeat of 2021, even with a vaccine in March. Without a doubt lockdowns will start and domestic flying will be back to skeleton within a month. Once the federal government realises they actually need to do something about the international arrivals quarantine system, maybe we will get somewhere, but regardless of your political tendencies, almost everyone would agree Scomo is basically out of his depth and completely incompetent. I’m starting to think this COVID will mirror the Spanish Flu and basically paralyse the world for a good 3-5 years. Perfect for China...🤭

vne165 19th Dec 2020 15:44


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 10950245)
Am I the only one who thinks that all out for 36 has a fishy smell about it?

There's only two things that smell like fish......

goodonyamate 19th Dec 2020 19:02

While they donít know how the initial two contracted it, hasnít it spread because of the two entitled boomers who didnít isolate after their test? Rather they went on a tour of Sydney.

Ragnor 19th Dec 2020 19:27

Yes they did. P!$$es me off that these ppl are getting off scott free all the time. These two are going to set us back months potentially

blubak 19th Dec 2020 20:02


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10950117)
Everyone needs to calm down stop the doomsday rubbish. NSW are the best in the world at handling this and yes itís a big bump on the road but it will be controlled. Ppl have been saying here that Gladys needs to make mask mandatory and yet there has not been a break out from not making them mandatory.

Isnt it different now though with people having it?
The premier has said it would be crazy not wearing 1 on public transport or indoor areas with others around.
U quote nsw as being the best in the world in handling this & i agree however with shopping centres etc jam packed with people,some of whom may have been to the nthn beaches area very recently,wouldnt it be erring on the side of caution to enforce masks as an extra layer of protection?
If this spreads,lots of people will be forced to do a lot more than wear a mask,no need to remind everyone of restrictions currently throughout europe & not very long ago,here in melbourne.
I wouldnt wish that on anyone,just my opinion,it may well be rubbish as u say.

Ragnor 19th Dec 2020 20:32

I am not against it, after this Northern beaches outbreak I wish they would make them mandatory for the next few weeks to slow the spread. I also wish they would stop the international arrivals but neither will happen.

WhisprSYD 19th Dec 2020 20:52


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 10950257)
Am I right in thinking they don't know where the Northern Beaches outbreak originated? The media is usually very quick to blame people returning from overseas or cleaners working at quarantine hotels. The infected hotel shuttle driver doesn't seem to have any connection so where did it come from?

Itís stayed awfully quiet which makes me think thereís something to it.

Suspicion by some I know on the NB that it may have been a celebrity/a-lister/elite etc who got to skip regular HQ in favour of a private residence in Palm beach.. but I think thatís just guess work.

maggot 19th Dec 2020 21:43


Originally Posted by goodonyamate (Post 10950464)
While they donít know how the initial two contracted it, hasnít it spread because of the two entitled boomers who didnít isolate after their test? Rather they went on a tour of Sydney.

sorry but is this confirmed? Link?
ffs

dr dre 19th Dec 2020 21:44


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 10950285)
Climb 150,
Once the federal government realises they actually need to do something about the international arrivals quarantine system, maybe we will get somewhere, but regardless of your political tendencies, almost everyone would agree Scomo is basically out of his depth and completely incompetent.

If people want Australia to be a whole country again itís time for the leader of the country of Australia to do something. The federal government can show initiative and institute remote quarantining, as every outbreak cluster has come from an inner city hotel (likely from this Sydney outbreak too). I warned this would repeat itself after the Adelaide outbreak, but no initiative seems to be taken.

Morrison is a useless leader, we saw this during the bushfires. Ignoring warning from fire chiefs, pissing off to Hawaii, insulting firefighters and claiming ďI donít hold a hose mateĒ. Well he may not hold a thermometer or hand out masks but if he announced a program of remote quarantine stations itíd be the most effective measure in controlling these outbreaks. Maybe buy one less of those obsolete submarines and start to defend against this actual clear and present danger to the nation.

Ragnor 19th Dec 2020 21:57


Originally Posted by maggot (Post 10950533)
sorry but is this confirmed? Link?
ffs

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bre...9f869122f24191

kingRB 19th Dec 2020 22:33


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 10950536)
The federal government can show initiative and institute remote quarantining, as every outbreak cluster has come from an inner city hotel (likely from this Sydney outbreak too). I warned this would repeat itself after the Adelaide outbreak, but no initiative seems to be taken.

Indeed. What was Scomo and the Government possibly thinking, not paying attention to your posts PPRuNe?



maggot 19th Dec 2020 22:33

Ta

frustrating to say the least


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