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dr dre 19th Dec 2020 03:44


Originally Posted by Iron Bar (Post 10950031)

ďThe reasons permitted for leaving home are work, for compassionate grounds, for exercise and for shoppingĒ

ABC news


Very vague, whoís enforcing it?

The shopping is only for grocery and essential item shopping. I guess that precludes Christmas gifts. The lockdown is until Christmas Eve, so expect a mad rush and packed shopping centres on the 24th. Sounds like a breeding ground for spread if the virus is not contained.

rattman 19th Dec 2020 03:53


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10949976)
What is the unpalatable numbers for Vic, QLD and other states to close off to NSW today? 5, 10,20 announced

Probably not numbers but a combination growth and coverage/location

currawong 19th Dec 2020 05:50

The basic principle of "quarantine" has been long understood.

Should not be a problem to grasp the concept.

The approach to the WA border, like it or not, is in the national interest.

Elsewhere, iron ore and gold production has been cut off at the knees, due to workforce disruption.

"The suggestion that commodity exports will again exceed $250 billion in the year ahead highlights the economic opportunity presented by the absence of the coronavirus in Western Australia, which is responsible for the vast majority of Australia's gold and iron ore production."

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/b...0200925-p55z9v

Evidence would suggest Australia has handled this rather well, on both infection and economic fronts.

That we should be called upon again to do what actually works, should not come as any surprise.



601 19th Dec 2020 06:01


Time for some decisive leadership.
You can pile on as much leadership in the form of directions until the cows come home
The directions are not going to stop this. It is only each and everyone of us making a conscious decision to do what is asked that will stop the spread.

But as we can see, it only takes one person to not comply and it is all over.


How about the Australian government step up and take care of Australia by doing what their supposed to in regards to international borders, immigration and quarantine and mandate remote quarantining. Direct international arrivals to land at places like Alice Springs or military bases and put them into federally funded facilities. Stop palming it off to states stop using the cheapest option of inner city hotels and step up and lead, because it’s obvious all states will continue this cycle of shut down and open up every few weeks/months until the vaccine uptake is widespread. If Australia is to be one country again it’s time for the Australian government to lead.
Better check up on who is in charge inside each state borders. Clue, it is not ScoMo

Green.Dot 19th Dec 2020 06:26

Just read COVID traces detected in sewage samples on Gold Coast, Townsville and Cairns.

DirectAnywhere 19th Dec 2020 06:28

Yup. It's looking messy.

Bodie1 19th Dec 2020 06:29


But as we can see, it only takes one person to not comply and it is all over.
All over? God spare me. I'm not a rona virus denier or a conspiracy theorist but spare us the dramatics. It's a major health issue and needs to be dealt with as such but for chrissakes do we need the drama, disaster and doomsday crap?


Better check up on who is in charge inside each state borders. Clue, it is not ScoMo
Scomo has made it quite clear that he doesn't make the border decisions and has no say.

wheels_down 19th Dec 2020 07:10

Nine reporting Vic government meetings underway this evening with a plan to include Metro Sydney in that hotspot zone. Details tomorrow morning.

Tasmania has now pulled the plug. 14 Day Q.

dr dre 19th Dec 2020 07:13


Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10950078)
Nine reporting Vic government meetings underway this evening with a plan to include Metro Sydney in that hotspot zone. Details tomorrow morning.

Itís likely the virus was transmitted outside the Northern beaches, we already know that positive cases travelled as far as Cronulla and Penrith. Iím pretty surprised mandatory masks at least arenít being implemented for the city.

wheels_down 19th Dec 2020 07:16


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 10950082)
Itís likely the virus was transmitted outside the Northern beaches, we already know that positive cases travelled as far as Cronulla and Penrith. Iím pretty surprised mandatory masks at least arenít being implemented for the city.

As an absolute bare minimum, trains, planes and buses, and airports! If they are serious add Supermakets and Malls.

Perhaps the airlines should take some initiative and put in mandatory masks or no boarding. They already have free masks for each passenger anyway. Few airlines in the USA have done this

PoppaJo 19th Dec 2020 07:37

Vic health officials seem a little edgy this evening it appears.

Australopithecus 19th Dec 2020 07:49

Border Pass required for Queensland from 0100 20/12. I imagine that the trigger for a hard border again is not too far away, Christmas notwithstanding. Still ten weeks out from a vaccine? I am the pessimistís pessimist, able to see only the dark cloud surrounding every silver lining. Guess what I see now.

ruprecht 19th Dec 2020 08:28


Originally Posted by Australopithecus (Post 10950092)
Guess what I see now.

Dead people...?

Ragnor 19th Dec 2020 08:43

Everyone needs to calm down stop the doomsday rubbish. NSW are the best in the world at handling this and yes it’s a big bump on the road but it will be controlled. Ppl have been saying here that Gladys needs to make mask mandatory and yet there has not been a break out from not making them mandatory.

Xeptu 19th Dec 2020 08:55

Save Ferris

wheels_down 19th Dec 2020 09:03

Mark McGowan overreaction panic conference coming up in about 10 minutes. 🔒

thorn bird 19th Dec 2020 09:22

Isn't it time to tell McGowan to piss off and form his own Country, provided of course they take the word Australia out of their name, because Australian they aint.

McGowanstan has a nice ring to it, or perhaps the Southern Socialist republic of McGowanstan.

All I heard out of his mouth was [email protected]#$K the rest of you, We alright Jack the rest of you can F#[email protected] off. Lets see how well he does without the rest of us propping him up.

Green.Dot 19th Dec 2020 09:28


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10950117)
Ppl have been saying here that Gladys needs to make mask mandatory and yet there has not been a break out from not making them mandatory.

I have full faith in NSW doing a good job- we are on the same page here.

Regarding mandating mask use, Iíve only got quals as a pilot so this is the best risk analogy Iíve got:

If you have windshear on the ATIS for takeoff do you?

A: Use normal takeoff figures because it doesnít look too bad outside (people who wonít wear a mask because they donít like the feel of them).

Or

B: Use full thrust with windshear figures and give yourself the best chance possible (Mandate mask use until they are certain itís under control, knowing more people will wear them if they have to).







SRFred 19th Dec 2020 09:31

Since it appears there are quite a few people from the affected LGA in Skidnee that are now in Queensland and also CV traces have been found in the sewerage right up to Cairns it would be amazing if it wasn't already in Victoria but then reduced testing numbers might not show the true situation.

jrfsp 19th Dec 2020 09:34


Originally Posted by thorn bird (Post 10950130)
Isn't it time to tell McGowan to piss off and form his own Country, provided of course they take the word Australia out of their name, because Australian they aint.

McGowanstan has a nice ring to it, or perhaps the Southern Socialist republic of McGowanstan.

All I heard out of his mouth was [email protected]#$K the rest of you, We alright Jack the rest of you can F#[email protected] off. Lets see how well he does without the rest of us propping him up.

Doesnt sound like you're familiar with the economics of this country......


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