E Drops to FL125 on the 21st of May
What were those rules on low FLs not being available on low QNHs? :hmm: :rolleyes::ugh:
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Not sure what your point is. :confused:
Cruise @ FL125 is not available if Area QNH is below 963hPa? LL of CTA is not changed. (edit...LL of CTA is not changed by change in QNH) |
Best to use an umbrella from 21 May to protect against all the raining aluminium, eh Cap’n!
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Will that be on the exam?
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Raining aluminian, (I know you are jesting LeadB!), but let's put the change in perspective:
On 20th IFR receives traffic information on other IFR and known VFR; On 21st IFR receives separation from other IFR and traffic on known VFR. I once watched two PT jets separating themselves south of Ayers Rock, one climbing out, the other inbound on descent. Heaps of traffic information, heaps of pilot-pilot separation, both had to level off until they observed passing on TCAS! From tomorrow, above FL125 (depends if lower Class E trial still going ahead) ATC will vector for 5NM separation and easily achieve uninterrupted climb/descent for both. My question is: Q: Without the pressure to retain Class E below FL180 as exists in the USA, and in Australia VFR aircraft require transponders to fly in Class E, why didn't Airservices request CASA to declare Class C down to FL125? A: Because transponders can only be detected by Secondary Surveillance Radar (SSR) which costs money, whereas ADS-B is detected by a unit about the size of a beer fridge, and from space if Airservices will pay for it. Cynical Conclusion - Once again the federal government (Airservices and CASA) has spotted a way to make themselves look good, and potentially make more money from IFR, without having to spend any money to protect IFR from VFR. |
Originally Posted by Emad
Cruise @ FL125 is not available if Area QNH is below 963hPa?
Originally Posted by Approach
I once watched two PT jets separating themselves south of Ayers Rock, one climbing out, the other inbound on descent. Heaps of traffic information, heaps of pilot-pilot separation, both had to level off until they observed passing on TCAS!
Originally Posted by Approach
From tomorrow, above FL125 (depends if lower Class E trial still going ahead) ATC will vector for 5NM separation and easily achieve uninterrupted climb/descent for both.
Originally Posted by Mister Approach
Cynical Conclusion - Once again the federal government (Airservices and CASA) has spotted a way to make themselves look good, and potentially make more money from IFR, without having to spend any money to protect IFR from VFR.
"Potentially" = "I don't really know, but I think that might be the case". I see the children are back putting in their 2-bob's worth... Kindy out for the afternoon? |
This is going to cause chaos in the Pilbara and jam frequencies even more than they are now. How long until there is a near miss with someone unable to get a clearance buzzing along at 9-10 000'nearly wiping out another aircraft. At least at FL185 there was some room to get up and out of the way.
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I see the children are back putting in their 2-bob's worth... Kindy out for the afternoon? |
Hopefully the next amendment will be E Base 8500, then E Base 700, then E Base to the ground.
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On reading this thread from the start |
Thought I had worked it out, that's why I made the comment.
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Would have been good if ASA had put on another controller or two so we didn't get held down below E while the controller was talking to others. Nice levelling AT Transition, altimeters, speed, checklists, clearances. Twice out of two attempts! Only going to get better, I suppose... Can't wait 'til it gets to 8500, then 700, then on the ground. If it was made 1200ft, we could just level off at circuit altitude. That'd be fun.
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Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
(Post 10789562)
Would have been good if ASA had put on another controller or two so we didn't get held down below E while the controller was talking to others. Nice levelling AT Transition, altimeters, speed, checklists, clearances. Twice out of two attempts! Only going to get better, I suppose... Can't wait 'til it gets to 8500, then 700, then on the ground. If it was made 1200ft, we could just level off at circuit altitude. That'd be fun.
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