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That's what happens when you send your maintenance overseas!
Oh? Hang on... (Relax, I'm just stirring...) |
Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket
(Post 10615163)
Honeymoon cystitis ? |
Funny, I'm watching Outback Truckers right now, and a guy transporting a 9-meter-wide 90-tons transformer is complaining that a tourist caravan slowed him down to "just 70 kph". Need for speed, ay.
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Originally Posted by 320busboy
(Post 10615095)
Generally we don’t tow with doors open, amm allows or not. Places a lot of load on the knuckle in the hinge arm. They are generally worn anyway so the bumps don’t help. Also more things hanging off the side don’t help with clearance from stands. Cargo doors can be hanging vertical for a tow if needed. Just a simple maintenance error and I feel sorry for the guys kicking themselves for the mistake. They would have been under pressure to move it and probably over worked and possibly tired. as long as the skin wasn’t damaged or the door frame, bolt a new door and Hing arm and guide rods tig it and off you go 1-2 shifts if you have spares on hand. Send the door to the shop. Don’t know if the 380 door is glare or alloy. The guys are human and make mistakes. Not because they came to work deciding to rip off a door. But because of a bunch of factors that led to the incident. |
Originally Posted by 320busboy
(Post 10615095)
Generally we don’t tow with doors open, amm allows or not. Places a lot of load on the knuckle in the hinge arm. They are generally worn anyway so the bumps don’t help. Also more things hanging off the side don’t help with clearance from stands. Cargo doors can be hanging vertical for a tow if needed. Just a simple maintenance error and I feel sorry for the guys kicking themselves for the mistake. They would have been under pressure to move it and probably over worked and possibly tired. as long as the skin wasn’t damaged or the door frame, bolt a new door and Hing arm and guide rods tig it and off you go 1-2 shifts if you have spares on hand. Send the door to the shop. Don’t know if the 380 door is glare or alloy. The guys are human and make mistakes. Not because they came to work deciding to rip off a door. But because of a bunch of factors that led to the incident. Despite some snide remarks, keeping an airline going with the enormous KPI pressures from those in the ivory towers is not easy. The pilots cop it, the cabin crew cop it, and the engineers cop it. I’ve been doing this for a long time, and I can tell you, sometimes it takes larger balls than I can fit in my pants to tell some suit in an office that this is going to take a little bit longer than he thinks it should. |
AFAIK each 380 door is a unique piece. Made afte a laser scan of the fuselage. At least that's what they told me at the Donauwoerth plant making them many moons ago.
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Originally Posted by Duck Pilot
(Post 10615103)
Berealgetreal
It was 30 years ago since I was an apprentice, so things may have changed since then. However I certainly recall being told. Regardless of this, I hope the company supports the engineers involved as it appears to be a simple mistake. Pilots have nothing but the highest respect for engineers, make no mistake of it. No idea how the job has no fatigue limits. Totally feel for the guys and hope it’s recognised as just a mistake. None of us go to work and hope to damage a machine, it’s basically a worst nightmare scenario. |
The airline already has two A380s on the ground undergoing refurbishment in Brisbane and Abu Dhabi |
Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was
(Post 10615647)
There isn't one in Brisbane.
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Dresden or Brisbane pretty close. |
Pity QF management made so much fanfare of retiring VH-OJU - should have kept it a few more weeks. |
Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10615183)
Just wondering: are towing operations undertaken with that little clearance? I'd guess that a protruding door can't add more than 1m to the whole thing.
i expect the incidence rate to be extremely low when factoring for number of tows accomplished successfully... but still... a 0 incidence rate is the target, not low incidence rates |
Yeah back in the GODs when I was doing tow & stow as a leading hand, I always had my wing walkers each check their side for any obstructions specifically including doors prior to any tow. I hate paperwork!!
No criticism mind, I worked the aircraft in the days when we actually had skilled people doing it and more than 1 on a shift. |
It was similar in the UK in the good old days ...... man watching each engine & each wing tip checked along with plenty of other people checking & a whistle if anything didn’t look right ..... probably can’t have that these days as someone would complain about the noise....... people on the aircraft were aeronautical trained!!
Love the name by the way musthavagander ..... we used to have some called musthavapiss. When the work was being dished out! |
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