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Flying into MEL? Beware......
ymml h3992/19 obst groups of trees at flw locations: 478ft amsl brg 304 mag 1.3nm fm arp infringes trans sfc by up to 0.3ft 465ft amsl brg 305 mag 1.2nm fm arp infringes trans sfc by up to 2.6ft. 370ft amsl brg 178 mag 1.1nm fm arp infringes apch sfc by up to 3.6ft. 561ft amsl brg 326 mag 1.8nm fm arp infringes horiz sfc by up to 43.63ft. Amd en route sup australia. 27 aug 07:18 2019 until perm. Created: 27 aug 07:18 2019 ymml h3997/19 obst groups of trees at flw locations: 439ft amsl brg 018 mag 0.9nm fm arp infringes transitional sfc by up to 3.9ft. 434ft amsl brg 022 mag 0.9nm fm arp infringes apch sfc by up to 0.328ft. 551ft amsl brg 328 mag 2.0nm fm arp infringes horizontal sfc by up to 33.8ft. 459ft amsl brg 291 mag 1.8nm fm arp infringes transitional sfc by up to 2.9ft. 27 aug 09:25 2019 until 28 nov 04:00 2019 estimated. Created: 27 aug 09:25 2019 |
Birdstrikes can be a bigger problem if the bird is it's nest at the time of impact.
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Kogan has good prices on chainsaws at the moment.
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ymml h3997/19 obst ice cream man r16 app lights 5ft bware if dhead pilot ushoots by 1000 might hit van |
Better watch out for those damned trees in PER too:
YPPH H5210/19 RWY 06 APPROACH SURFACE INFRINGEMENTS TREE 131FT AMSL BRG 242 MAG 0.94NM FM ARP TREE 170FT AMSL BRG 242 MAG 1.27NM FM ARP TREE 146FT AMSL BRG 245 MAG 1.07NM FM ARP TREE 147FT AMSL BRG 246 MAG 1.10NM FM ARP TREE 143FT AMSL BRG 248 MAG 1.03NM FM ARP TREE 126FT AMSL BRG 250 MAG 0.94NM FM ARP TREE 146FT AMSL BRG 249 MAG 1.10NM FM ARP TREE 124FT AMSL BRG 252 MAG 0.95NM FM ARP TREE 139FT AMSL BRG 253 MAG 1.07NM FM ARP RWY 24 APPROACH SURFACE INFRINGEMENTS TREE 100FT AMSL BRG 54 MAG 1.12NM FM ARP TREE 104FT AMSL BRG 55 MAG 1.15NM FM ARP. 31 OCT 10:23 2019 UNTIL 31 JAN 09:00 2020 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 31 OCT 10:23 2019 YPPH H5211/19 MULTIPLE TREES INFRINGING TRANSITIONAL SFC TREE BRG 018 MAG 1.03NM FM ARP 85FT AMSL TREE BRG 041 MAG 0.90NM FM ARP 97FT AMSL TREE BRG 042 MAG 0.93NM FM ARP 101FT AMSL TREE BRG 042 MAG 0.95NM FM ARP 108FT AMSL TREE BRG 043 MAG 0.92NM FM ARP 94FT AMSL TREE BRG 044 MAG 1.01NM FM ARP 98FT AMSL TREE BRG 044 MAG 1.01NM FM ARP 96FT AMSL TREE BRG 045 MAG 1.05NM FM ARP 92FT AMSL TREE BRG 045 MAG 1.13NM FM ARP 111FT AMSL TREE BRG 056 MAG 0.65NM FM ARP 101FT AMSL TREE BRG 057 MAG 0.72NM FM ARP 100FT AMSL TREE BRG 058 MAG 1.10NM FM ARP 105FT AMSL TREE BRG 059 MAG 1.15NM FM ARP 114FT AMSL TREE BRG 060 MAG 1.27NM FM ARP 133FT AMSL TREE BRG 194 MAG 1.31NM FM ARP 120FT AMSL TREE BRG 194 MAG 1.36NM FM ARP 102FT AMSL TREE BRG 204 MAG 1.92NM FM ARP 159FT AMSL TREE BRG 247 MAG 0.48NM FM ARP 103FT AMSL TREE BRG 248 MAG 0.44NM FM ARP 115FT AMSL TREE BRG 249 MAG 0.41NM FM ARP 110FT AMSL TREE BRG 249 MAG 0.42NM FM ARP 111FT AMSL TREE BRG 250 MAG 0.4NM FM ARP 108FT AMSL TREE BRG 268 MAG 0.67NM FM ARP 128FT AMSL. 31 OCT 10:37 2019 UNTIL 31 JAN 09:00 2020 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 31 OCT 10:37 2019 |
I sniff Lawyers!
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If they were actually concerned about safety, maybe they’d cut the f@#kers down (or at least prune them) instead of issuing bullish!t NOTAMs! |
Wasn’t one of the outcomes of the Air Canada near landing on a taxiway at SFO too many unnecessary NOTAMs? |
If you are low enough to hit those trees, I think you may have bigger problems going on than a few trees! |
Cannot see the wood for the trees......... |
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Briefing Package 63 pages. Of that 63 pages, 38 pages of notams. Of that 38 pages, the relevant notams could have fit on 2 pages max. Still had to dig through and find them. The Opsgroup are onto something. j3 |
A simple diagram would be much more useful.
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That’s why I get the FO to plot them all before flight😉. Typical Australian bul!5h/t as usual🤬, very embarrassing. |
Nothing more pathetic than these sorts of notams. Goes to show the emphasis is on ass covering rather than providing relevant info to crew. The chances of missing an important NOTAM are exponentially increased when amongst this rubbish.
Talk about a pet hate! 😩 |
The RAPACs have raised this a number of times and ASA says that their software system at this time cannot do what is being asked. eg: in NAIPS the pilot should be able to ask for NOTAMs that are applicable to his/her flight. eg: Class D/G below A100 or 50nm either side of track. Guess we have to wait.
and yes, it is for legal but covering that we see so many that are basically irrelevant. |
Thought that's what the crash axe was for. Short handled version for shredding NOTAMS and with the extension handle for ppruning.
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If they were actually concerned about safety, maybe they’d cut the f@#kers down (or at least prune them) instead of issuing bullish!t NOTAMs! Don't you know the Greenies and Leftards are running this country now and infiltrated all levels of Bureacracies from State Govt; Councils etc including Airport Boards... heck they haven't even done a THIRD of the hazard Reduction & Winter back-burning they were meant to have done and that fact was only realeased on a FOI request, as they've tried to hide it from the public in Victoria. All other States are just as bad and hiding the truth. There's some type of frog in those trees, I bet :ugh: |
So, if the airlines had to increase sign on times in order to allow for these 'extensive' NOTAMS, would there be some motivation for the aforementioned airlines to be proactive in this instance?
(Or, is this just as silly as suggesting they cut them down?) |
I’ve observed the majority don’t read them and no longer have any idea of the latest manual changes as they update hit update on the iPad. Electronically bombarded with huge amounts of information much of it completely irrelevant to the role. Pilots not only lost control of their conditions but also the way their job is done. Magenta generation, ARBEY time, COBT and ordering vacuuum cleaner batteries for cabin crew whilst doing take off figures. Ludicrous, zero leadership. The work creation schemes continue. |
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