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currawong 2nd Oct 2019 04:29

Moron
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-...calls/11546990

Slezy9 2nd Oct 2019 05:24

Melbourne Airport hoax caller

Okihara 2nd Oct 2019 06:19

How did he manage to get caught?

CaptainMidnight 2nd Oct 2019 07:12


Originally Posted by Okihara (Post 10584569)
How did he manage to get caught?

Best not to tell or even hint.

This being social media, readable by all.

Paragraph377 2nd Oct 2019 08:14

Virgin Flair??
 

Perhaps he was just trying to exhibit some Virgin flair? Have some fun, engage in some crazy antics that Sir Richard just loves! Did he also spread his arms wide and make little plane circles in front of the plane as it was pushing back? Did he wave goodbye to the passengers from the GSE line? You can hardly jail someone from Virgin ground crew for having some fun and frivolity, surely?
Virgin, keeping the air fair......

industry insider 3rd Oct 2019 00:06

Sorry, should have gone to jail.

TimmyTee 3rd Oct 2019 03:11

If he’s truly remorseful, why doesn’t he hand over the transmitter to police or tell them where it is? His claim that it was thrown in a lake was proven false, after the entire lake was drained! How is that remorseful?

AerialPerspective 3rd Oct 2019 07:32

First thing to note is that he apparently has Aspergers (only according to the media and I'm not making any assumptions, I'm not a Doctor but I imagine it may have had some affect on the whole drama) - I'm guessing the reason for the light/deferred sentence and the requirement for mental health services is that the court determined he didn't have the capacity to determine what he did or the consequences of it... I know people will think 'he knew what he was doing' but none of us were in his mind nor examined all the evidence.
Second thing and the most alarming IMHO is that he either left or was dismissed from his job at VA YET, according to media reports he still had his uniform... how the HELL did that happen... if it did then it's bloody slack... has no one in that organisation heard of PS1771??? Oh, sorry, forgot, most of the people making decisions either have no airline background or came straight to DJ from High School...
In any case, no employer can completely screen or predict what an employee will be like but considering the prolonged rubbish this one goes to with recruitment and the associated processes, maybe some reality needs to come into the process and there needs to be a tick box on an exit form "Uniform Returned - Yes/No"...

B772 3rd Oct 2019 13:39

Industry Insider. The lefty's in Victoria do not like putting people in Jail.
AerialPerspective. I suspect the uniform was a hi-viz jacket.

hoss 3rd Oct 2019 19:48

I admire your empathy for this guy AreialPerspective. I think the photo of him in uniform is a quick selfie on the ramp before the offence. There is no mention of the uniform issue or VA being ‘slack’. I’m sure we could find thousands of non returned uniform examples at QF!

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machtuk 3rd Oct 2019 21:52

One has to wonder about our pathetic judicial system in this case! The judge said …."such behaviour is totally unacceptable" yet it obviously is acceptable to the judge as he let the guy lose back in to the community! He's one sick individual but that's okay as he has been recycled by our broke system, all good!

Okihara 3rd Oct 2019 23:56

Maybe this is yet another incident that emphasizes the need to evolve from plain VHF radio technology for digitial voice transmission. Public key encryption and signing would at least provide a way to identify the station calling safely (at least until quantum computers are in town) and rule out any prick with a transmitter from potentially wreaking havoc for the foreseeable future. Just to be clear, the encryption part would not be used as much because one would still want to enable other pilots to keep a listening watch but the signing part would allow any aircraft to verify the identity of the station calling.

Here's another thought: Not that I want to revisit the issue, but as a former baggage handler, this bloke certainly had an ASIC, hence a background check, thus proving yet again how useless this piece of plastic is.

Sunfish 4th Oct 2019 07:48

Okihara, your solution just saddles Australian aviation with another cost. I have a simpler and cheaper solution: mandatory life imprisonment.

Okihara 4th Oct 2019 09:42

Inmates for life also don't come in cheap by today's rates either.

kaz3g 4th Oct 2019 13:08

It appears a number of contributors here have no idea of the impactAspergers, mental health issues and a seriously ****** up childhood might have on a person, or of the cost and the criminogenic nature of imprisonment.

Her Honour sentenced the offender to two years gaol to be served in the community while undergoing treatment to address the mental health issues that led to the offending.

Prisoners invariably come out of gaol worse than when they went in...much better to deal with the underlying issues for the individual and society at large.

The rate of imprisonment in Australia is at an all time high and so is our crime rate. Do the research and find out why.

AerialPerspective 4th Oct 2019 14:25


Originally Posted by kaz3g (Post 10586386)
It appears a number of contributors here have no idea of the impactAspergers, mental health issues and a seriously ****** up childhood might have on a person, or of the cost and the criminogenic nature of imprisonment.

Her Honour sentenced the offender to two years gaol to be served in the community while undergoing treatment to address the mental health issues that led to the offending.

Prisoners invariably come out of gaol worse than when they went in...much better to deal with the underlying issues for the individual and society at large.

The rate of imprisonment in Australia is at an all time high and so is our crime rate. Do the research and find out why.

Exactly what I was trying to point out. All the geniuses on here who think they know more than the Judges, Juries and people who have studied law should just stop pontificating. As for the suggestion of life imprisonment... if it HAD been disastrous, is the life imprisonment going to bring back the victims??? This guy clearly had problems which are way beyond the 'expertise' of anyone here. By the way, pontificating about Victoria's legal system when the federal goons are trying to lock people up for exposing a fraud committed by the previous LNP government against a friendly nation to steal gas off them is a bit rich.

As for the example of shooting people, yeh, because what we really want to do is have people running around with deadly weapons like another Western so-called democracy I could mention.

Regarding the uniform... at lease one news outlet commented that the carrier had failed to get his uniform back and there is no suggestion he took a selfie on shift before committing the act as someone has stated. Clear implication is that he was dismissed and failed to return his uniform and he then obtained a radio (probably stole it from the office before leaving, if so, another example of poor accounting).

Near Miss 4th Oct 2019 14:56

So because he was young, and had Aspergers, he avoided prison time. Yet he was old enough, and mentally capable enough, to hold an ASIC. :hmm:

AerialPerspective 4th Oct 2019 15:09


Originally Posted by Near Miss (Post 10586460)
So because he was young, and had Aspergers, he avoided prison time. Yet he was old enough, and mentally capable enough, to hold an ASIC. :hmm:

I think you'll find while there are criminal checks for ASIC they largely look at serious crime(s) and politically motivated violence... if none of that is present or is below the threshold then he would have got an ASIC... I'm sure I read in the news that he was dismissed from his job (may be wrong but I'm sure that's what I read and heard on TV news) so obviously the ASIC was cancelled when he was dismissed.

What's your solution... no one ever gets an ASIC just in case they might become a criminal???

AerialPerspective 4th Oct 2019 15:11

"...The court heard just before the hoax calls, Sant had lost his job at Virgin Australia as a baggage handler but had continued to put on his uniform and pretend to go to work..."

Duck Pilot 4th Oct 2019 18:01

Obviously you people commenting about this story have absolutely no idea about anything with regards to mental illnesses. I’m not defending the young guy, however please show some respect.

Based on the media reports, the young bloke involved probably requires a lot of support and encouragement.

The negative comments being bantered here does not help. Just wait until you or a family member/friend suffers from a mental illness and you will know exactly what I’m referring to.....

Off the topic a wee bit, Mental Illness Awareness Week runs from the 6th to the 12th of October 2019. Good opurtunuty to look out for each other.





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