Virgin Australia : 315 Million Loss - How long can they survive?
Another disaster result. How long can this company survive? Losses in nearly every part of the business. How can an airline in a country that is part of a duopoly not make money? ——-———————————————————- From the Age: Virgin Australia has reported a $315 million full-year loss as soft demand, higher fuel costs and unfavourable currency movements made the task of turning it around an even bigger challenge for its new boss. The result is an improvement on last year's $653 million loss, but is still the airline's third-worst performance. Virgin Airways has now posted seven straight years of losses adding up to $1.9 billion. The company said it would make 750 corporate and head office roles redundant by the end of the current financial year to save $75 million in costs. In May, Virgin warned that on an underlying level, which strips out some one-off costs, earnings would fall by at least $100 million and swing to a loss of $35.6 million, or lower. The result came in worse than that, with an underlying loss of $71.2 million. Virgin's chief executive Paul Scurrah, who was brought in in March to replace long-time boss John Borghetti, said the result showed the airline must "improve" its financial performance. "While we have continued to grow revenue and have a strong loyal customer base, we need to make changes to our costs to ensure we see financial benefit from the growth in our business," he said |
To answer your question about why they can't make money in a duoply is simple: poor management which resulted in poor decisions being made which led to poor results.
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Finally, a CEO that knows what he’s doing! The fact that there’s 750 oxygen thieves in head office sipping lattes whilst trying to justify their made up positions is reprehensible. The fact that Paul Scurrah has realised this just demonstrates that he does have a handle on where all the waste is actually occurring. And if there’s 750 excess staff in head office, I shudder to think how many people that they actually have up there! It’s about time Virgin had a CEO that’s focussed on the core business and not all the peripheral bull****. Great to see one good decision being made after 10 years of poor decisions. Maybe, just maybe, Virgin will be able to survive after the immense damage that has been done during the last disastrous decade. |
What on earth are all these people doing? |
Virgin Australia has reported a $315 million full-year loss as soft demand, higher fuel costs and unfavourable currency movements made the task of turning it around an even bigger challenge for its new boss. Does anyone know the total staff at VA? 750 not required, just wow. |
Totally spot on and agree. The perception that they’ve been top heavy has finally been acknowledged. I think now they have a CEO to fix the rot.
Originally Posted by The Bullwinkle
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Finally, a CEO that knows what he’s doing! The fact that there’s 750 oxygen thieves in head office sipping lattes whilst trying to justify their made up positions is reprehensible. The fact that Paul Scurrah has realised this just demonstrates that he does have a handle on where all the waste is actually occurring. And if there’s 750 excess staff in head office, I shudder to think how many people that they actually have up there! It’s about time Virgin had a CEO that’s focussed on the core business and not all the peripheral bull****. Great to see one good decision being made after 10 years of poor decisions. Maybe, just maybe, Virgin will be able to survive after the immense damage that has been done during the last disastrous decade. |
Virgin Airways has now posted seven straight years of losses adding up to $1.9 billion. |
750 staff to go will just be the start of the blood-letting. Also to go should be their International fleet of A330s and B777s: niche operations are all well and good but they don’t pay their way in price sensitive and very competitive markets. The new CEO has inherited a 24 carat poisoned chalice. Lucky bloke!! |
Originally Posted by Icarus2001
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The exact same conditions that Qantas operated in profitably. Does anyone know the total staff at VA? 750 not required, just wow. |
It's not really a duopoly, the subsidised/ funded Jetstar makes it very difficult..
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I’ve seen this happen from time to time. Management make a big announcement about large job cuts as a way of “tightening their belts” because investors like to see companies cut costs. But after the layoffs those jobs slowly come back, except with new names and reduced conditions, and eventually the top heavy layers of office dwellers reappear. |
It's not really a duopoly, the subsidised/ funded Jetstar makes it very difficult.. Isn't virgin also subsidised ? Etihad Airways (21%) Nanshan Group (22.4%) Singapore Airlines (19.8%) HNA Group (8%) Haven't so many other airlines subsidised/funded Virgin heavily ? |
One of life’s great mysteries; why do people keep investing in airlines? |
Originally Posted by Ken Borough
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750 staff to go will just be the start of the blood-letting. Also to go should be their International fleet of A330s and B777s: niche operations are all well and good but they don’t pay their way in price sensitive and very competitive markets. The new CEO has inherited a 24 carat poisoned chalice. Lucky bloke!! |
Virgin has so much baggage from Borghetti, that I doubt it can survive. How many types does it have in it's fleet across it's way too numerous businesses?
I think they have even more types than Ansett did before it went under. Sky West ....... dead weight. Tiger Air ........ dead weight ...... a low cost carrier operated by a low cost carrier ....... Overpaid executives ....... Poor decisions like the Per-DPS / ADL-DPS disaster that was beyond incompetent Serving soup to business class PAX as though it is a meal ....... It's a superior airline to Qantas all day long, but Borghettie's poor management has killed the goose that laid the golden egg. |
Two factors have seen Qantas "look" good.
1. ****star isn't gobbling up so much cash flow now 2. Selling assets to make your bottom line look good |
Why don’t people just see this for what it is? New CEO joins. Tanks the profit first year and has large writedowns to clear the decks. Announces large job cuts but doesn’t disparage the previous management funnily enough. Moves on some upper level managers to bring his own team in to share the spoils. Miraculously returns the business to profit and is handsomely rewarded for doing so. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. The level of corruption, incompetence and greed amongst Australian corporates is breathtaking and the rest of Australia is too busy working to live to be able to give a ****. |
Virgin on the ridiculous
Virgins issues run deep. Legacy issues created by legacy management a long time ago, with resolution of those issues having never been resolved. Il Deuce did very little for his $46m in earnings didn’t he? Issues, where does one start:
Without a doubt, this story is to be con’t........ |
Originally Posted by Paragraph377
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Besides, why fly VA or QF International when ANZ offers a far better service in every aspect of an airline - it’s modern aircraft, seats, lounges and customer service. Can’t be matched. Without a doubt, this story is to be con’t........ |
Paragraph 377, When will you tell us what you really think? :} :ok: |
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