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What’s going on at Tiger
Since the start of this year the business has crashed operationally. Every month that passes the numbers are getting worse. Current departure target is low 60%. Looking at the numbers for this week, most days a quarter of the flights are 3-5hrs late.
Blunty might be long gone but I’ll give him credit he did one thing when he walked into it, fix its OTP. And he had it at a steady 80 even upward of 90. MM too busy over at Virgin? |
MM trashed VARA’s operational record and now she is doing the same at TT! |
Last I checked, it still ain’t super. Clearly MD not flash either....... |
Catering debacle, maintenance debacle and yet she still retains her position.
She must have friends in high places. :rolleyes: |
We are sooooooooooo lucky she didn’t get the main gig at VA. Would have been a disaster:rolleyes: |
Some 3 odd years a ago when the powers to be said we are going all Boeing that was the day the first nail was driven home in Tigers coffin, the lid is being slowly nailed closed! A burial is inevitable as they stand now! |
Tiger Singapore are in the progress of switching its current fleet out to the Neo. What a great chance to nab these aircraft. Skytraders are taking some as they are only 10 years old. Tiger Oz could take some and piss off the 737. Blame blunty for the mess all is good. |
Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10549756)
Tiger Singapore are in the progress of switching its current fleet out to the Neo. What a great chance to nab these aircraft. Skytraders are taking some as they are only 10 years old. Tiger Oz could take some and piss off the 737. Blame blunty for the mess all is good. |
Tiger is much like Masters. Nothing but a financial drain and management distraction. A token fleet of a dozen odd aircraft will never be a solid contributor to the group. What PS is trying to do is boost Virgin’s foundations to essentially bullet proof it against ongoing market and fuel headwinds. Tiger can’t do much should fuel rise. The risk here is what has happened in the past, when fuel went above one hundred, Tiger was losing fifty to sixty million. If MM can’t fix it then nobody can :} |
Tiger can’t do much should fuel rise. The risk here is what has happened in the past, when fuel went above one hundred, Tiger was losing fifty to sixty million. As their target customer is fare conscious, they are price sensitive. Thus, Tiger (like Low fare airlines) can try to yield build by gently raising prices. Should fuel price increases impact their cost structures, they find rising costs (with fuel price) combines with falling demand (a result of higher gasoline pump prices) generate the negative dual shock. |
Tigerair Taiwan going NEO as well. Seems to be a trend...
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...20neos-460342/ |
VARA and Tiger merged with the Tiger basically being the east coast VARA 320 Op? Probably a whole lot more complex than that! Not a bad rumour though.
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal
(Post 10550231)
VARA and Tiger merged with the Tiger basically being the east coast VARA 320 Op? Probably a whole lot more complex than that! Not a bad rumour though.
At least with the max deferment the 320 will hang around a little longer but i think it is only delayed IMHO. Who knows however, old mate at the top now (PS), may change his mind and his predecessor decisions. (but he would have to convince the board who approved it in the first place) |
Originally Posted by No Idea Either
(Post 10548739)
We are sooooooooooo lucky she didn’t get the main gig at VA. Would have been a disaster:rolleyes: |
Scurrah bringing in the axe
Here we go... What happens to all the excess pilots and I assume that means goodnight Irene to the BNE base. |
Highly unlikely that there will be redundancies from the pilot ranks. Part of the benefit of the GDOJ list is redeployment across the group. Could let some of us VA types catch up on leave!
VARA is the closest to being overcrewed, losing 3 F100s, but the company has a few tools at its disposal, 737 jobs, leave without pay (pick me!!!) etc. |
Is there the possibility of the 2 TT 320s replacing the 3 F100s?
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther1
(Post 10611881)
Is there the possibility of the 2 TT 320s replacing the 3 F100s?
Allegedly those F100s are coming off the VARA RPT side of things (think BME, KTA, etc). Apparently that flying to be picked up by PER 737 (maybe A320 too?). Although what that does to costs when you have a 100 seat jet replaced by a 170 seat jet - who knows? But I suppose that’s similar to some of the routes that were purely ejet back in the days. |
The remaining Tiger Airbus fleet is relatively young and would probably command too high of a price premium to go to VARA, who essentially get the high cycle low lease cost frames. The aircraft already gone to VARA cost a third to lease compared to the rest of the Tiger fleet. There was a Tiger batch delivered until 04/05 ex Singapore then the next lot is 08 onwards build with new upgrades. These are highly sought after frames globally, especially the last couple delivered. Think back to the start. They started leisure routes then went after the triangle. On time performance went out the door with that also. ASP/MCY/MKY/ROK/LST. |
Allegedly those F100s are coming off the VARA RPT side of things (think BME, KTA, etc). Apparently that flying to be picked up by PER 737 (maybe A320 too?). Although what that does to costs when you have a 100 seat jet replaced by a 170 seat jet - who knows? But I suppose that’s similar to some of the routes that were purely ejet back in the days. |
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