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Traffic Spacing?
Sitting in the lounge at Changi watching aircraft land approximately every 1.5 minutes. Do we match or better that frequency in Australia? |
I've had plenty enough late landing clearances and ambitious expedite instructions to not care much about this one. Are you an airline pilot Sunny?
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Changi mainly* use one runway for arrivals and one for departures whereas we normally don’t in Australia. This would greatly help with numbers imo. |
spektrum, Sunfish just wants you to know that he is sitting in a lounge in Changi. He also knows how to get the stats for the movements at any of Australia's airports.
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1.5 minutes at say 130-140 knots is around 3- 3.5 nm separation. I believe we use 5nm in trail and no closing when handed off to the tower.
High speed taxi exits make a huge difference Sunfish. |
Sunfish fishing again. You’re better than this sunfish. Enjoy your flight home. |
Sunfish, didn't you know Australia has the 2nd best ATC in the world.......
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Sunfish just wants you to know that he is sitting in a lounge in Changi |
Maybe he was in the departure lounge |
Singapore's CTR (TMA) doesn't have any GA traffic so it can be much more streamline than what we have at Australian airports. Furthermore, they stop turboprops from operating in to WSSS, so air traffic management and sequencing is much easier.
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 10534825)
None of the lounges at Changi have a view of the runways! :D |
Have a look at LGA, that’s how you move aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10534575)
Sitting in the lounge at Changi watching aircraft land approximately every 1.5 minutes. Do we match or better that frequency in Australia? Various UK airports are a better example of what is possible, and as one poster says ---- high speed exits, they make all the difference. He/she/X (just being gender neutral) is so right. Tootle pip!! |
Plaza premium lounge has views of the running away... Sat in the pool during a transit at the transit hotel watching de planes... No idea on the capacity but don’t think it’s a world leader in movements. Check out Manila now that’s spacing... |
Originally Posted by LeadSled
(Post 10535443)
Sunny,
Various UK airports are a better example of what is possible, and as one poster says ---- high speed exits, they make all the difference. He/she/X (just being gender neutral) is so right. Tootle pip!! |
You haven't seen tight spacing until you've landed in SFO or LAX where you get a landing clearance with two other aircraft still ahead of you on final.
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I counted 25 acft (well, their landing lights) stacked up on final at Atlanta. Two runways, so 13 or so on each.
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Sunny, do yourself a favour, go to LA, uber it to The Proud Bird, $15. Apart from great food, excellent craft beer and a great atmosphere, grab a table outside and watch the arrivals at LAX. They have lighties overflying & a mix of aircraft types. Then you'll see spacing.
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Originally Posted by VH DSJ
(Post 10535470)
You haven't seen tight spacing until you've landed in SFO or LAX where you get a landing clearance with two other aircraft still ahead of you on final.
Australia ATC procedures (not the ATCer's) - do not get me started! |
https://www.internationalairportrevi...wick-capacity/
Fifty five movements per hour on a single runway. Agreed no traffic mix of turbo-props and high speed exits as well. |
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