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slf.au 20th Nov 2019 21:35


Originally Posted by Chief galah (Post 10620271)
Can anyone explain the logic behind having a taxiway system west of the proposed runway?

That is for the west terminal, see the airport development plan on the Tullamarine airport Web site, page 115. The hint is that the proposed railway is extended to there.

Cat on a PC© 21st Nov 2019 00:14

High winds today have reduced ops to 16/34 and likely to be that way for most of the day. Some flights cancelled as a result.

GA Driver 21st Nov 2019 04:38


Originally Posted by MELKBQF (Post 10620832)
1975 Melway showing the original second nth/sth runway proposal located where the factories and warehouses have been built.

https://digitised-collections.unimel...12&isAllowed=y


If only all those damn factories weren't there.......
In my 'somewhat later' Melways, the proposed parallel 16/34 was over to the west about where the current control tower is.

Cat on a PC© 21st Nov 2019 23:25


Originally Posted by GA Driver (Post 10623083)
If only all those damn factories weren't there.......
In my 'somewhat later' Melways, the proposed parallel 16/34 was over to the west about where the current control tower is.

Yes, and have been for years. I forgot all about that runway to the east.

JustJoinedToSearch 22nd Nov 2019 02:12

Slightly OT but does anyone know the reason for extending V north of 27/09 up to C?

​​​​If 16 is in use no one is exiting at C and heading southbound down A so no conflict there, if 34 is in use then no one is going northbound on A so no conflict there either.

The only benefits I can think of are:
1. Makes it easier for the tugs to go up and down A
2. Reduces the impact of works on that part of A

Neither of which seem significant enough to me to really justify it.

deja vu 22nd Nov 2019 05:56

The CFMEU will decide if there will be another runway built and where it may go. Probably going to have to wait until they have drained every last available dollar from rail crossings and metro tunnels first though. Ten years at least.

DukeBen 22nd Nov 2019 07:41


Originally Posted by JustJoinedToSearch (Post 10623781)
Slightly OT but does anyone know the reason for extending V north of 27/09 up to C?

​​​​If 16 is in use no one is exiting at C and heading southbound down A so no conflict there, if 34 is in use then no one is going northbound on A so no conflict there either.

The only benefits I can think of are:
1. Makes it easier for the tugs to go up and down A
2. Reduces the impact of works on that part of A

Neither of which seem significant enough to me to really justify it.

Twy A near Twy E will be closing temporarily as part of the Twy E re-alignment & Twy Z project, so Twy V is being extended to ensure aircraft can taxi north of Rwy 27 to depart Rwy 16 without having to backtrack Rwy 16 whilst Twy A is closed.

L-Plater 28th Oct 2022 01:52

Hopefully Melbourne-Tullamarine gets its 3rd runway and also an airport train.

long talked about, never delivered.

North-South orientation surely makes more sense.

If Melbourne authorities were so concerned about noise abatement, Melbourne-Avalon would have been a great option to expand.

aussieflyboy 28th Oct 2022 02:34

Hopefully they build a new parallel runway and close any crossing runway.

The last thing we need is another SYD where if the wind get above 20 knots they close a majority of the airport. Having no crossing runway would eliminate the need for any closures and keep everything moving.

Roller Merlin 28th Oct 2022 02:43

Proposal is for ILS on R34L and R and consequent lowering of airspace over the bay from LL4500 to LL2500 to facilitate.

PoppaJo 28th Oct 2022 04:45

I really wish they would just get on with it. And perhaps be a bit more ambitious with timeframes. They said it ‘could’ be ready by 2027, but they said more like 28 or 29. See you mid next decade.

The whole train thing is just embarrassing. A decade or two talking about it. Then a decade to build the train line. Only in Oz.

PiperCameron 28th Oct 2022 05:16


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 11321318)
Hopefully they build a new parallel runway and close any crossing runway.

The last thing we need is another SYD where if the wind get above 20 knots they close a majority of the airport. Having no crossing runway would eliminate the need for any closures and keep everything moving.

That would kinda put an end to LAHSO and 09/16 simultaneous operations on those calm sunny days we get in summer.

No, another parallel runway (34L/16R) is about the only thing that makes sense and even then, probably only when the new Terminal is built - otherwise we'd get another "SYD 3rd runway" situation and nobody down here wants that..

PiperCameron 28th Oct 2022 05:24


Originally Posted by Roller Merlin (Post 11321321)
Proposal is for ILS on R34L and R and consequent lowering of airspace over the bay from LL4500 to LL2500 to facilitate.

Yeah it sucks - but given that the VFR Coastal Route is already down to 2000, I don't think too many folks will have a problem with that.

tossbag 28th Oct 2022 12:10


I really wish they would just get on with it. And perhaps be a bit more ambitious with timeframes. They said it ‘could’ be ready by 2027, but they said more like 28 or 29. See you mid next decade.

The whole train thing is just embarrassing. A decade or two talking about it. Then a decade to build the train line. Only in Oz.
So, on the one hand you wish they'd get on with it, but you correctly identify that Australia is an infrastructure **** hole. The world has fast trains, Australia has pieces of **** that look awesome on the outside but are as fast as an uber milking a fare in peaktime.

Australia = showbags. Big, fat and full of ****.

PoppaJo 28th Oct 2022 23:40


Originally Posted by tossbag (Post 11321579)
So, on the one hand you wish they'd get on with it, but you correctly identify that Australia is an infrastructure **** hole. The world has fast trains, Australia has pieces of **** that look awesome on the outside but are as fast as an uber milking a fare in peaktime.

Australia = showbags. Big, fat and full of ****.

Correct on rail. Vline still use 1980 built carriages and loco’s on its network. Melbourne to Geelong should be fast rail or ‘faster’ rail, 40 mins tops. We are still stuck in the 80s it seems.


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