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ACMS 15th May 2019 11:03

QF 44 diverts to Broome
 
ok now I’m really surprised this hasn’t been raised in here before this.........

Apparently the first time a wide body Jet ( A330 ) has landed in Broome? ( didn’t CX take an A340 in there a number of years ago or was that Port Hedland?? )

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation...ng-b881198138z


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...534739ac256433


Edited......oops sorry Capn Bloggs

BuzzBox 15th May 2019 12:05


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10471760)
...didn’t CX take an A340 in there a number of years ago or was that Port Hedland??

The CX A340 diverted to Port Hedland.

dragon man 15th May 2019 21:34

I believe it was electrical and the cabin lights were actually flashing on and off.

topend3 16th May 2019 02:53

disco plane. According to Flight Aware it's still in BME.

Dee Vee 16th May 2019 03:01


Originally Posted by topend3 (Post 10472262)
disco plane. According to Flight Aware it's still in BME.

Must be the military lighting up their high power radar again... :sad:

At least it was only the lights this time!

dragon man 16th May 2019 04:07

One generator, numerous messages, aural warnings that couldn’t be silenced and lastly no auto pilots. Not nice.

Fwh 16th May 2019 04:13

Interesting, how long is it going to be kept there?

ACMS 16th May 2019 05:36

Since I made the original post I’ve heard some little info basically what was said above.
Failure of ECMU 2 in a big way that took out a lot of AC and DC busses.

Well handled as you’d expect from the boys and girls at QF..

Capn Bloggs 16th May 2019 06:39


and lastly no auto pilots.
What, no FO?

morno 16th May 2019 06:46


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10472316)
Well handled as you’d expect from the boys and girls at QF..

As I’m sure many other crews from around the world could handle as well.

Buster Hyman 16th May 2019 07:04


Originally Posted by Dee Vee (Post 10472266)
Must be the military lighting up their high power radar again... :sad:

Is that the Chinese military you mean? According to Palmers UAP ads... :rolleyes:


machtuk 16th May 2019 07:41

The SkyGods have yet again done well:-):D

dragon man 16th May 2019 08:02


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10472316)
Since I made the original post I’ve heard some little info basically what was said above.
Failure of ECMU 2 in a big way that took out a lot of AC and DC busses.

Well handled as you’d expect from the boys and girls at QF..

I don’t fly airbus and would appreciate some factual observations without snide comments about the seriousness of this. Thanks

ACMS 16th May 2019 08:12

The info I have which is basic,

ECMU 2 failed, AC and DC busses went offline, lights flashed, ECAM’s cautioned, APU’s wouldn’t start, resets didn’t help, A/P wouldn’t work, many issues apparently that shouldn’t have happened with just an ECMU 2 fail.

ECMU:- Electrical contactor and management unit.

I can’t tell you anymore details I’m sorry as I don’t know, the crew faced a serious situation at midnight half way into their flight, then they landed successfully.

Morno......I don’t work for QF and I’m sure we would all equally handle the situation.
Why can’t I congratulate them on a successful outcome?




Mr Leslie Chow 16th May 2019 10:24

Because ACMS in this day and age we must all pander to acknowledging that everyone is equal and if someone broadcasts a respectful comment to one ‘party’ that indicates bias and favouritism and further shows you are marginalising all others.

We are are all equal in every single regard and those of us that are thin skinned will rise up and declare “hey you can’t say that”!

FFS morno, give yourself an uppercut



On another point ACMS you can say whatever you like. Im sure the crew involved would appreciate the compliment.

Rated De 16th May 2019 10:39


On another point ACMS you can say whatever you like. Im sure the crew involved would appreciate the compliment.
Precisely.

Broome at night in an A330 is not an exercise one undertakes for amusement.

morno 16th May 2019 11:38


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10472419)
Morno......I don’t work for QF and I’m sure we would all equally handle the situation.
Why can’t I congratulate them on a successful outcome?

I never said you couldn’t. I’m sure they did a good job. I’m just not sure why we expect QF to be any better than anyone else.

spleener 16th May 2019 12:31

It’s been a while since I flew a bus.......
But, from memory that’s a BIG ecam checklist and potential (no pun) issue. Well done to the crew.

Camara 16th May 2019 13:31

Disclaimer: Long time observer and not a pilot, first post.
I was wondering how long it would take to surface on here.
When they arrived early the other morning it sure as hell woke me up with a bang in Broome . A quick look on flight radar showed an A330 in a place it shouldn’t be . The track, altitude and speed graph was not the normal for an arrival into Broome to say the least .They spent quite a fair bit of time at the end of the runway stationary before taxiing off and parking up near the CHC hangar . It would be interesting to have seen the brakes after that landing. It’s been moved in the last day and is definitely a big bird for Broome . I take my hat off to the guys/girls on the flight deck for doing an awesome job and getting it down in one piece in some ass puckering conditions. I can’t wait to see it depart.

dragon man 17th May 2019 02:39


Gin Jockey 17th May 2019 02:40


Originally Posted by Camara (Post 10472660)
It would be interesting to have seen the brakes after that landing.


Broome longer than runway 27 in melbourne, which A330s use everyday.

Rated De 17th May 2019 03:18


Originally Posted by Gin Jockey (Post 10473122)
Broome longer than runway 27 in melbourne, which A330s use everyday.

That may be the case, but given the urgency present here, it is highly likely the landing weight would have been significantly higher than landing at the end of planned flight.

Tankengine 17th May 2019 04:40


Originally Posted by Rated De (Post 10473133)
That may be the case, but given the urgency present here, it is highly likely the landing weight would have been significantly higher than landing at the end of planned flight.

Possibly at higher speed depending on failures too.

KRviator 17th May 2019 06:23


Originally Posted by dragon man (Post 10473120)

That's a much better read than that tripe from another QF Captain...

maggot 17th May 2019 08:42


Originally Posted by Tankengine (Post 10473160)

Possibly at higher speed depending on failures too.

Oui
FCCs out and flight controls degrade... Spoilers etc

Capt Basil Brush 17th May 2019 12:35

Are there any suitable taxiways or parking bays suitable for widebody wingspans or weights in Broome? Just curious, as an emergency landing will override this. I haven’t been there for years, but we used to have weight limits there for a 737-800.

Where did it park?

Dawn Patrol 17th May 2019 21:35


Originally Posted by Capt Basil Brush (Post 10473467)
Where did it park?


Northern apron. Just off/kind of on Charlie.

megan 18th May 2019 00:31

The departure brought out the natives. Credit Ashley James Munn



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maggot 18th May 2019 01:51


Originally Posted by Capt Basil Brush (Post 10473467)
Are there any suitable taxiways or parking bays suitable for widebody wingspans or weights in Broome? Just curious, as an emergency landing will override this. I haven’t been there for years, but we used to have weight limits there for a 737-800.

Where did it park?

Yes and at a guess they'd be a little over
738 has higher psi so being lighter it can still have issues vs a bogey'd

wombat watcher 18th May 2019 23:43

Qantas B767s have been in there half a dozen times for an overnight.

werbil 24th May 2019 12:53


Are there any suitable taxiways or parking bays suitable for widebody wingspans or weights in Broome?
Considering it was towed onto the runway with multiple observers prior to engine start, and required a guide for the turn around at the beginning of the runway I'd say not for wheel track. The taxi and take off procedure effectively closed the airport for the best part of half an hour. Advise to inbound aircraft - hold time unknown - advise latest divert time.

Given that the whole town seemed to know of the departure time in advance a NOTAM would have been nice.


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