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QuarterInchSocket 2nd Jun 2019 07:53


Originally Posted by HarryMann (Post 10484452)
For so many to keep complaining that this situation was straightforward and instantly recognisable trim runaway, thus just a matter of applying standard memory item...
is a bit disingenuous when post after post and pilot after pilot here have acknowledged it doesn't necessarily manifest as such. And certainly not at altitudes and flight regimes one might have the time to see it for what it was... or in fact, for what it wasn't !

relative to the first prang, your point is valid. However, for all subsequent ops exhibiting practically identical symptoms - I believe it SHOULD be straightforward, and caught early having already happened.
Due diligence I believe would see professional pilots study as much as can be studied both about the accident and on the manufacturers reaction by way of the fcom bulletin. I am left wondering if the ill fated Nigerian Air pilots briefed the possibility of the runaway stab situation during the taxi takeoff briefing. Stick shaker at unstick (liftoff) would be a good indicator that a possible ‘runaway’ stab exists.

just my opinion, I don’t consider myself neither right or wrong

Bend alot 2nd Jun 2019 13:46


Originally Posted by QuarterInchSocket (Post 10484595)


relative to the first prang, your point is valid. However, for all subsequent ops exhibiting practically identical symptoms - I believe it SHOULD be straightforward, and caught early having already happened.
Due diligence I believe would see professional pilots study as much as can be studied both about the accident and on the manufacturers reaction by way of the fcom bulletin. I am left wondering if the ill fated Nigerian Air pilots briefed the possibility of the runaway stab situation during the taxi takeoff briefing. Stick shaker at unstick (liftoff) would be a good indicator that a possible ‘runaway’ stab exists.

just my opinion, I don’t consider myself neither right or wrong

Have Nigerian pilots recently had run away trim issues?

But I guess Nigeria is a state in Africa, and Ethiopia just a city of said state.

QuarterInchSocket 2nd Jun 2019 14:46

yep, i deserve that. apologies!

MakeItHappenCaptain 2nd Jun 2019 22:12

But wait! According to the QF72 report on Channel 7 last night, this Airbus incident should have been a warning about the Max8! (Seems 60 minutes also were also deficient, lacking the discovery of the new “Death Dive” technical term...)

Shipwreck00 15th Jun 2019 05:09

How does a regulator like that loose sight, take their eye off the ball. Pretty obvious that if you let airlines make those type of decisions it will be all about money. Think local ring any bells


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