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Capt Fathom 5th Apr 2019 11:03


Originally Posted by Roo (Post 10439338)
Full pax, Easy! As a rough comparison...
BNE-LAX (6283nm) is 320nm further than JNB-SYD (5963nm)

Keep talking it up! Seems to be more A380 ops out of JNB than B787 at present!

Roo 5th Apr 2019 11:36

Not talking it up. Last place I would want to go. Simply pointing out the 789 can do it. 380 can have it.

Bad Adventures 17th Apr 2019 04:19

Looks like the 380 is to be withdrawn from DFW from November replaced by 787-9 so I’d say 380 ops to JNB a distinct possibility.

dragon man 17th Apr 2019 05:33

Well that takes about 3 airframes so it frees the 380 to do either Santiago or Joburg or San Fran. Joburg fits in with Haneda and San Fran has no 380 gates at the present arrival time so I’d say Santiago.

crosscutter 17th Apr 2019 06:39

Perhaps DOT approval is not forthcoming....demand is still quite solid for DFW isn’t it?

Transition Layer 17th Apr 2019 06:52

Lots of MEL 787 positions in the recent training vacancies. Perhaps the plan is to run a daily 787 MEL-DFW and a 787 SYD-DFW to provide the same sort of capacity as present?

crosscutter 17th Apr 2019 07:42


Let’s not forget the last plan according to DA was Tokyo JNB and SCL to be the last 747 trips into 2020 with HNL returning to the 330 and remaining US services being transferred to other fleets. That email was only 2 months ago

The BNE slots ... BNE Chicago finally? Maybe it’s BNE DFW. Who’s going to do SYD SFO? Maybe MEL base.

C441 17th Apr 2019 22:27


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 10449341)
Perhaps the plan is to run a daily 787 MEL-DFW…..

MEL-DFW-MEL was planned to be the original 787 service but the average overall headwind DFW-MEL meant the service was marginal.
Doesn't mean it won't be done, but unlikely.

Meanwhile there's another 6 MEL based A380 Capt vacancies. Maybe this is to allow MEL base to do SIN-LHR while SYD takes over Jo'burg and Santiago. Jo'burg has always had good premium loads including First Class when the 747 had it.

Who knows what they're thinking when the Networks guru and head of International are moved along in quick succession?? :8

dragon man 18th Apr 2019 04:43

Another problem has arisen as I believe a 330 is grounded for maybe 2 months as engineering blew up the yellow hydraulic system with a new rig that had not been correctly set. OEB might now be staying longer.

Bad Adventures 7th May 2019 05:18

Sydney/San Fran going 787 from December so I’d say the quads to stay on the polar routes for now.

cessnapete 7th May 2019 06:54


Originally Posted by Roo (Post 10439663)
Not talking it up. Last place I would want to go. Simply pointing out the 789 can do it. 380 can have it.

Hey Roo,
Jnb A380, great stopovers for us Poms.
No time change, great hotels, world class golf courses, and steak and wine as good as In Oz. And perhaps a local Game Park drive on your days off.
Same for you minus the time change!.

Andre Meyer 7th May 2019 11:52

747-8

Buy it and continue on as is.

Mk 1 7th May 2019 23:39


Originally Posted by Andre Meyer (Post 10465343)
747-8

Buy it and continue on as is.

No future in 4 holers. Backward move.

dragon man 7th May 2019 23:58


Originally Posted by Mk 1 (Post 10465812)
No future in 4 holers. Backward move.

Do not agree, the 800 has incredible payload capacity and is far more fuel efficient than the 380.

Going Boeing 8th May 2019 01:14

Yes, the B747-8 airframe/engine combination are performing very well but reports from within Lufthansa indicate that the interior fitout of the Intercontinental Passenger version is not up to an acceptable standard.

4 Engine Aircraft are now following the path of dinosaurs.

Rated De 8th May 2019 08:27


Originally Posted by dragon man (Post 10465820)


Do not agree, the 800 has incredible payload capacity and is far more fuel efficient than the 380.

That is correct, they are overwhelmingly a better choice.
They have an impressive cargo volume their payload capacity is comparable to a 747-400ER.

The problem with the aircraft is not the performance it is simply the fuel included CASK.



dragon man 8th May 2019 09:26

From Johannesburg to Sydney it will uplift in summer approx double the ERs payload.


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