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Ixixly 21st Jan 2019 04:19

Scoot TR7 return and divert info
 
Hey all,

​​Anyone have any info on TR7 Gold Coast to Singapore today? Turned around not far out back to Gold Coast then seems to have diverted to Sydney now?

wheels_down 21st Jan 2019 05:48

Engineering Delay which resulted in late takeoff which then resulted in bogan passenger throwing a tantrum after takeoff. Burnt Fuel went to Sydney.

The Bullwinkle 21st Jan 2019 06:57


Kranz 21st Jan 2019 20:49

Aren't there any AFP in OOL? Why the divert? Also, one PAX stated that the flight should never have left the ground without disembarking alleged drunk bogan as he was already picking a fight/intimidating/abusing other PAX before wheels up. Any truth to that?

Capt Fathom 21st Jan 2019 21:06


Originally Posted by Kranz (Post 10366662)
Aren't there any AFP in OOL? Why the divert?

With the time already airborne, plus the police ‘investigation’ on arrival, the crew would be out of hours and unable to continue. By going to Sydney, Scoot could put the passengers onto other flights to Singapore. That would not be possible out of the Goldcoast or Brisbane.

machtuk 21st Jan 2019 21:29

All decisions would have been commercially based once the Capt was informed the guy was under control. I feel for the ground staff as they would be under pressure to get 'em in & get 'em out fast meaning they wanna get rid of the problem (drunk idiot) to the next level of assessment, the FA's. It's a common issue unruly behavior, road rage, assaults at venues, bullying, domestic violence etc, sign of how angry society is these days:-(

Ex FSO GRIFFO 21st Jan 2019 23:53

Re 'sign of how angry society is these days'....

More like 'doped up' I would imagine....perhaps a bit of 'ice' had something to do with it, having experienced the effects of the so called 'recreation drug' on some people.

Hope he gets banned for life from all airlines.

No cheers and no sympathy.


Kranz 22nd Jan 2019 00:43


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10366676)
With the time already airborne, plus the police ‘investigation’ on arrival, the crew would be out of hours and unable to continue. By going to Sydney, Scoot could put the passengers onto other flights to Singapore. That would not be possible out of the Goldcoast or Brisbane.

Well that actually makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

The Bullwinkle 22nd Jan 2019 02:07


I feel for the ground staff as they would be under pressure to get 'em in & get 'em out fast meaning they wanna get rid of the problem (drunk idiot) to the next level of assessment, the FA's.
You’ve got to be joking right?!?
So as long as drunk is out of the ground staff’s hands, everything’s fine?
Much easier to deal with an unruly drunk at 38,000’ than on the ground! :confused:​​​​​​​

machtuk 22nd Jan 2019 05:56

Not at all, that's exactly how it is, if you cant fathom that then that's yr problem!

Qantas 787 22nd Jan 2019 06:10

So the AFP arent charging him and the airline isnt taking further action. But he is having a mental health assessment.....meanwhile he cost the airline tens of thousands of dollars and disrupted 200 other passengers.


rjtjrt 22nd Jan 2019 06:12

The perpetrator is fortunate the flight did not carry on to Singapore. I imagine the Singaporean Authorities reaction on landing would be more formidable than the Australian justice system.

SnowFella 22nd Jan 2019 06:13

Sounds like the AFP has made a decision, no charge and transferred to a mental health facility.
One of these days I have to ask a workmate made "famous" from a similar incident just what the outcome was.

He's one of the muppets involved in this debacle.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...21-gqa99o.html

PoppaJo 22nd Jan 2019 06:42

Bogans behaving badly...
 
Cable tie him to the seat and let our Singaporean friends deal with him at the other end. I’m just sure they will take real good care of him :}

Give him the Indo treatment...


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Dee Vee 22nd Jan 2019 07:21


Originally Posted by Qantas 787 (Post 10366861)
So the AFP arent charging him and the airline isnt taking further action. But he is having a mental health assessment

there has to be a better way of dealing with these mentally unstable people, rather than just let them on a flight (or whatever) and when they commute a crime they just get let off, and maybe put on a no-fly list.

The Bullwinkle 22nd Jan 2019 07:37


Originally Posted by machtuk (Post 10366858)
Not at all, that's exactly how it is, if you cant fathom that then that's yr problem!

Right...... So the ground staff have no obligation to refuse embarkation to a drunk passenger???
Well that is definitely news to me.
Thanks for clarifying!

Ex FSO GRIFFO 22nd Jan 2019 09:11

Just saw the 'result' on Ch7 News. (Perth)

Well, I'm 'Flabbered & Gasteredddd'...…………..What more can any of us say...………..in this case anyway!!

No Cheers...NOPE none at all...

PoppaJo 22nd Jan 2019 09:43

He needs to face the Singaporean system. He was on a 9V regisistered bird. It’s the only way the bogans here will learn. He would be facing prison, 100 lashes and probably wished he was never alive had he been arrested on the other end.

There is a similar case of another bogan abusing police officers (video on YouTube) at Changi and pushing them. He got 7 months prison.

He won’t get any form of justice here as our system is flawed. He needs to be whipped in Singapore.

patty50 22nd Jan 2019 10:01


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 10367070)
He needs to face the Singaporean system. It’s the only way the bogans here will learn.



Yes because nothing makes people stop drinking like a random doing a short stint in a Singaporean jail. I heard no one has ever smuggled drugs through that joint since the first one was executed. They all learned.

The sadistic bogan hate fantasies you lot have are both hilarious and terrifying. As we know the coked up eastern suburbs glitterati have never found themselves on the wrong side of the law. Quick grab the whip!

777Nine 22nd Jan 2019 11:45


Originally Posted by patty50 (Post 10367096)


Yes because nothing makes people stop drinking like a random doing a short stint in a Singaporean jail. I heard no one has ever smuggled drugs through that joint since the first one was executed. They all learned.

The sadistic bogan hate fantasies you lot have are both hilarious and terrifying. As we know the coked up eastern suburbs glitterati have never found themselves on the wrong side of the law. Quick grab the whip!

I've heard many a story of cashed up people that do coke before getting on a flight as they hate flying. Would explain so much ..

umop apisdn 22nd Jan 2019 13:29

I'd probably turn into a belligerent bogan too if I found myself in a Scoot flight for 8 hours.

Stationair8 28th Jan 2019 21:37

According to Friday’s The Australian, fighting harada will not be charged by the AFAP, he will be added to Singapore and Scoots do not fly list, his details will not be shared with other carriers. Airlines confirmed to The Australian that passengers on the no fly list were no passed on to other carriers because of privacy.

There is some thought that the man, may have suffered a mental health condition, which could limit any prosecution prospects.

Dee Vee 28th Jan 2019 22:43


Originally Posted by Stationair8 (Post 10373887)
According to Friday’s The Australian, fighting harada will not be charged by the AFAP, he will be added to Singapore and Scoots do not fly list, his details will not be shared with other carriers. Airlines confirmed to The Australian that passengers on the no fly list were no passed on to other carriers because of privacy.

So as usual, he will be let back out on the streets with no punishment, and will do the same all over again on the next unsuspecting airline/crew/passengers.

Apparently his privacy and mental condition, are more important that the public's safety.

If his offence is punishable by jail time, and he is not charged due to mental health, he should be immediately locked up in a mental health institution for at least as long as the offence would be punishable for in the normal criminal system, and then they can do an assessment to see if he has recovered sufficiently to no longer be a menace to society.

C441 29th Jan 2019 00:11

Any truth to the rumour that the offender in question was not the initial aggressor?
I have heard on the grapevine that he was responding to continual provocation from those he eventually lashed out at. Whilst certainly not condoning this response, maybe there's more than one person who should be added to 'no-fly' lists.

michigan j 29th Jan 2019 01:03

So am I right in reading that some bogans were hassling some guy with mental health problems, and the guy with the mental health problem was the one arrested? Some great policing work right there...

Berealgetreal 29th Jan 2019 02:08


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 10367070)
He needs to face the Singaporean system. He was on a 9V regisistered bird. It’s the only way the bogans here will learn. He would be facing prison, 100 lashes and probably wished he was never alive had he been arrested on the other end.

There is a similar case of another bogan abusing police officers (video on YouTube) at Changi and pushing them. He got 7 months prison.

He won’t get any form of justice here as our system is flawed. He needs to be whipped in Singapore.


Saw that video, what an embarrassment. Australians abroad stand out.


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