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Captain Sherm 28th Dec 2018 21:59

Hawke Ailing?
 
The Age reports:

Former prime minister Bob Hawke is reportedly confident Labor will win the upcoming federal election but doesn't think he'll be around to see it happen because of his poor health.


Gosh. Donít know what to say!

Hydromet 28th Dec 2018 22:05

Saw him on TV last night, and he certainly looked his age.

gordonfvckingramsay 28th Dec 2018 23:01

Does it really matter who gets into power or how Hawkes health is going? Both parties will endulge in collusion with big business and the damage Hawke did to the industry is still being felt.

Who cares, we wonít miss the old bastard.

Capt Fathom 28th Dec 2018 23:26

How appropriate. Hawke is 89! He may get the last laugh after all. :}

The Bullwinkle 29th Dec 2018 02:16


Hawke Ailing
Finally some good news!

Octane 29th Dec 2018 02:18

Why the appalling comments..?

Chocks Away 29th Dec 2018 02:33

Octane because he's the prick who called in the National Defense Forces (& everyone else) to break a Union strike.
Never seen before! Not for a Tram Strike / Beer Strike / Wharvies Strike / Railways Strike / Bus strike... the list goes on!
I wasn't part of it but it certainly stopped my career in it's tracks.
Many "youngens" disregard History but only to their own detriment. History is important to know, all sides of it!

LeadSled 29th Dec 2018 03:29


Originally Posted by Chocks Away (Post 10346320)
Octane because he's the prick who called in the National Defense Forces (& everyone else) to break a Union strike.
Never seen before! Not for a Tram Strike / Beer Strike / Wharvies Strike / Railways Strike / Bus strike... the list goes on!
I wasn't part of it but it certainly stopped my career in it's tracks.
Many "youngens" disregard History but only to their own detriment. History is important to know, all sides of it!

Chocks Away,
Not quite correct, it was a Labor government put the army in, wharfies and coal miners, in years gone buy.
'89 was not a strike, (almost) everybody in the domestics resigned. A very significant difference, it is important to stick to facts.
Tootle pip!!

gordonfvckingramsay 29th Dec 2018 03:43

Any leader who publicly denigrates an entire profession without any idea what he's talking about deserves to be remembered as the dimwit he is. His legacy gave birth to the shambles of an industry we have today and to the dim view most people have of what we do. The appalling comments Octane are due to the residual anger from the injustices of 1989.

busdriver007 29th Dec 2018 03:48

Twice in history was the Military called in to break a strike. During the war(1942) and 1989. Both were Labor Governments. My father was involved before going to New Guinea on 1942. He was spate at by the striking wharfies. Ironically they loaded supplies they would later use in New Guinea to fight the Japanese. Appalling behaviour during World War 2 but I personally think 1989 was the end of the Labor Party as a party for the Battlers. Both Hawke and Keating went on to live in the Eastern Suburbs in million dollar mansions. Hardly representing the downtrodden.

redned 29th Dec 2018 04:28

I have no time for Hawke but even less time for the domestic pilots and their 30% pay grab in 89.Led by a megalomaniac who would destroy the economy and tourist industry and wreck the lives of thousands,you blokes should be ashamed.

Fantome 29th Dec 2018 04:30


How appropriate. Hawke is 89! He may get the last laugh after all.
Oh man. . . from EFFEN Q ......how EFFEN TRUE (should it so transpire). . . .. . YOU'LL DO !

By the way, Brad Norington, who wrote the twisted, distorted one-eyed "SKY PIRATES" is now a big editorial wheel at THE AUSTRALIAN. He is in today's. (yes .. . I still buy that Murdoch rag .. . for it's better content . . .. though Captain Byron Bailey does not always qualify.)

ramble on 29th Dec 2018 04:31

From what I hear, his grave site will be cheap to upkeep - there wont be any need to water or fertilise it..

Fantome 29th Dec 2018 04:36


you blokes should be ashamed.
and you should go and wash your mouth out . .. for your lack of grasp of the truth . . . and your total ignorance of the evil collusion that preceded the 24th of August 1989. (You might have lost a few quid , on your blacksoil plain) but loyal men and women lost their loved ones . .. . and of that there is proof positive ....if anyone ever bothered to do the detailed research.) But Redned, reading what he has posted on this subject over the years, is well and truly in the camp of the 'untouchables' and hence does not know half of it.

rjtjrt 29th Dec 2018 04:38

Not many Vietnam Veterans will shed a tear for Hawke. Still despised.

gordonfvckingramsay 29th Dec 2018 05:19


you blokes should be ashamed
Of?? Victims being apologetic for hating the perpetrator, good luck with that thinking pal! :mad:

runway16 29th Dec 2018 05:20

Ramble On,

Agreed. When the subject passes away there will be a continuous flight past of noisy aircraft over the funeral.

I wonder how many airline pilots took their lives as a result being forced out of work because of the strike and the strike breaking?

Initials ?

George Glass 29th Dec 2018 06:00

Just for the record LeadSled, it might not have been a strike but having a lawsuit slapped on you for breach of contract required a dramatic response. The wrong one as it turned out.
I went through the whole debacle and came to the conclusion long ago that NOBODY came out of that sh#t fight with their reputations enhanced. Incompetence and blind belligerence all round.
I blame AFAP leadership as much as Hawke. Just very sad so many junior pilots, who simply doing as they were told ,suffered so much.
Taught me to trust my own judgement and be very, very careful when you entrust your future to those in "authority".

patagonianworelaud 29th Dec 2018 08:38


From what I hear, his grave site will be cheap to upkeep - there wont be any need to water or fertilise it..
It'll be worth the airfare from Adelaide to join the queue ....................

Fantome 29th Dec 2018 09:20

There were moderates in the AFAP, whose ability to hold confidential talks, before the law suits, with the men on the other side , from the PM down, has not been recognised or documented. The Hawke/Abeles collusion has also not been considered in any depth.

When Abeles confronted members of the AFAP in his office, his foul and abusive language, and the thug-like threats that he made, are recorded in diary entries made by some of the pilots in the forefront of the fray.


the domestic pilots and their 30% pay grab in 89.
Wrong, redned . .. . . .contract negotiations of expired contracts had stalled. The AFAP executive sought a means to force the airlines to the arbitration table. It was dicks like Norington who put about the lie of 30% pay claims.


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