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QF A330 CIRCUITS at AV
Just curious with anyone who works for QF this A330 doing circuits at AV right now, would this be base training? Attached https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....51bfdb956b.png
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Qantas circuits at Avalon always seem more like holding patterns. Right back to the 70's. Ansett, TAA and IPEC would belt around the circuit whilst QF would disappear out of view.
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500ft circuits while avoiding the chicken sheds or dumbbells when the wind was all cross during S/O fo F/O endorsement were not holding patterns!
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Base training, I think it would be for SO to FO trainees who don’t have the req company “handling pilot” experience. |
Originally Posted by PW1830
(Post 10335280)
500ft circuits while avoiding the chicken sheds or dumbbells when the wind was all cross during S/O fo F/O endorsement were not holding patterns!
Right then. Must have missed that. Went to school next to Avalon and it was neat to watch as a kid. Enjoyed base training in jets there years later in a pointless exercise considering simulator fidelity. Must admit, simulator is more difficult than real life, 500 ft circling approaches seemed a breeze with all the visual cues. In the simulator it was more a computer game but then again, that may have been because the requirement was to be on one engine. Seeing co-pilots these days struggle on two engine visual approaches I can just imagine the pilot shortage ( in Asia especially ) if these elemental skills still needed to be demonstrated. |
Gnadenburg, from personal experience I can say that it's about removing the "gee whiz" factor from your first aircraft flight usually the next morning.
No matter how good the sim, and they really do have excellent fidelity, an aircraft is different mentally. A big plus is that you get to hack the jet around like you will rarely do on line ops. |
It was FO upgrade training for 2 x SOs. |
Originally Posted by Keg
(Post 10335319)
Surprised they found a spare A330 today given some of the disruption of the last couple of days! QF42 CGK- SYD into PER; QF52 SIN- BNE into CNS I think; QF583 didn't leave SYD last night due to weather, etc.
I wonder if they'll do base training on the Dugong or 787 if people decide to vertically promote on that? |
Gnadenberg- is that a wind up?
Simulator easier than real life- how much koolaid have you had intravenously? |
Think I said the opposite to your interpretation. |
Originally Posted by Street garbage
(Post 10336668)
Gnadenberg- is that a wind up?
Simulator easier than real life- how much koolaid have you had intravenously? Must admit, simulator is more difficult than real life |
Serious question- Do other airlines in Australasia do base training in the real aircraft these days? As for the SO to FO upgrade, surely these individuals would have had the shiny jet syndrome beaten out of them after years of plying the world in heavy jets. Other airlines just chuck brand new newbies in the RH seat of 180.seat jets. That being said, it would be fun to go and have a crack at a few circuits in a 150 ton toy. |
Cathay (and presumably Dragonair) still do it. Hong Kong CAD requirement. |
Tiger do it for the Airbus to Boeing crews converting. Virgin dont. |
So not a regulatory requirement then, more an in house rule. |
Back in the GoDs, I recall 5 hours of circuits at Avalon in the 747-200.
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Air NZ don't on the jet fleet. First landing is with pax on board.
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They started to look at doing it again as it was quicker to put a few trainees and TREs in an aircraft for a few hours than take up sim space and lose the TRE for a few days on a trip whilst they did stage 1 of the training. |
Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard
(Post 10336708)
Not sure how you get that from I should have asked why do you think the sim is harder than real life? |
Originally Posted by Veruka Salt
(Post 10337246)
Cathay (and presumably Dragonair) still do it. Hong Kong CAD requirement.
Originally Posted by Slezy9
Air NZ don't on the jet fleet. First landing is with pax on board.
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