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Ken Borough 11th Dec 2018 10:19


Originally Posted by Pastor of Muppets (Post 10333095)
Anyone would think they were preparing for the second coming.

And even the second coming won't help such a basket case!

Gate_15L 12th Dec 2018 07:32


Originally Posted by Ken Borough (Post 10333117)
And even the second coming won't help such a basket case!

Says the QANTAS stooge.

:rolleyes:

Bing Gordon 25th Dec 2018 09:07


DUXNUTZ 25th Dec 2018 21:49


Originally Posted by Bing Gordon (Post 10344182)

Dunkerly was largely quite liked by the pilot group. The board is the group that voted for/against pilot contracts, not the ceo.

wheels_down 25th Dec 2018 22:15

Contract issues has been largely a USA wide issue for decades certainly not unique to HA.



Bing Gordon 26th Dec 2018 05:00


Originally Posted by DUXNUTZ (Post 10344448)


Dunkerly was largely quite liked by the pilot group. The board is the group that voted for/against pilot contracts, not the ceo.

The placards literally have his name on them

wheels_down 26th Dec 2018 05:57


Originally Posted by InZed (Post 10344508)


Okay thanks for your input Mr Dunkley.

I was at LAX few months ago and Alaska Pilots were picketing on the sidewalk.

If if you have worked over there you would be well aware of industry contract problems. All bar Southwest !

JPJP 27th Dec 2018 17:51


Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10344563)

I was at LAX few months ago and Alaska Pilots were picketing on the sidewalk.

If if you have worked over there you would be well aware of industry contract problems. All bar Southwest !

Nope.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2df986ea8.jpeg


Southwest Pilots.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/n...-field-as.html

Southwest Mechanics.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...t-new-contract






The Bullwinkle 27th Dec 2018 21:28

Virgin has missed a golden opportunity by not appointing John Thomas, so now we’re going to get a FIFO CEO!
I’ll give him 18 months before he “resigns to spend more time with the family” blah blah blah.
It’s become a bloody circus under JB and no amount of banging fists on desks and shouting is going to compensate for the under resourced mess we see here today.
It’s a bloody shame.......

Snakecharma 28th Dec 2018 02:54

Notwithstanding the personal loyalties that come with the fiefdom that the current CEO has built up around him, the blame for the mess needs to be laid directly at the feet of the chairperson.

There are differing reports about Thomas, but I still think he was the best bet the airline had. The US airline executive experiment has failed dismally in the past, particularly with the ex United band of incompentants, with the US airline environment being significantly different to the Australian one, and the US industrial and pilot environment being significantly different.

The ex Hawaiian Airlines guy is British but has spent a lot of time in the US, but tellingly it would seem has spent sod all in Australia.

How hard is it to find a ceo that is willing to treat people properly - find one of those and there is a half decent chance that the airline will succeed.


Icarus2001 28th Dec 2018 02:58


It’s become a bloody circus under JB and no amount of banging fists on desks
Become a circus? It started that way and has not changed. Brett Godfrey was the first ringmaster. A legend in his own luch time.

porch monkey 28th Dec 2018 05:52

The sooner you all get the "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" mentality squared away, the easier your life becomes. There are no Herb Kellehers left. Especially in this country.

Snakecharma 28th Dec 2018 06:39

Icarus, while I don’t agree with a number of Brett’s philosophies I believed he genuinely cared about the staff, and recognised that the staff, and more importantly their families, were the key to success. And for the most part the business made a profit.

Yes there were things that were not good, there were things that were poorly done, but at the end of the day it was a much better business and much better company to work for than now.

THAT all said, it is still one of the best jobs in aviation in Australia - and while that sounds like a contradiction, there are a heap of things this joint does well.

Finding the special sauce that puts all the good bits of then and now together into one package is the key. We aren’t there yet, and I am hopeful the new boss, whomever that may be, might go some way towards conjuring that magic.

I live in hope.


The Bullwinkle 28th Dec 2018 09:49


There are no Herb Kellehers left.
I’d settle for a Gordon Bethune!

gordonfvckingramsay 29th Dec 2018 00:01


There are no Herb Kellehers left.
There are but they will never get a gurnsey in this country, too progressive for the corporate culture.

wheels_down 29th Dec 2018 08:38

so who’s actually running the joint at the moment?

Snakecharma 29th Dec 2018 22:16

Excellent question!

The Bullwinkle 30th Dec 2018 02:37


Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10346461)
so who’s actually running the joint at the moment?

Nobody as far as I can tell.......

The Bullwinkle 14th Jan 2019 06:03

Stevedore boss Paul Scurrah touted as Virgin CEO candidate.

WTF!!!
Do they just like to add a different name each week!
FFS.

https://aus.remonews.com/stevedore-b...ceo-candidate/

DUXNUTZ 14th Jan 2019 06:21


Originally Posted by The Bullwinkle (Post 10360021)
Stevedore boss Paul Scurrah touted as Virgin CEO candidate.

WTF!!!
Do they just like to add a different name each week!
FFS.

https://aus.remonews.com/stevedore-b...ceo-candidate/

Maybe someone was offered the gig but didn’t want it. My money is on Merren.


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