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Stationair8 18th Oct 2018 01:16

Cobham Aviation
 
For those interested, Cobhams are advertising on the AFAP webpage for Dash8 crew, B717 First Officers and CL604 crew.


Far Canel 18th Oct 2018 01:18

Rumors that they were interviewing last month?.

Blitzkrieger 18th Oct 2018 05:36

Go for it boys and girls! Itís a great way to get some jet time.

markfelt 18th Oct 2018 09:21


Rumors that they were interviewing last month?.
Employing too. RAAF pilots off to Special Missions fleet.

gordonfvckingramsay 18th Oct 2018 21:26

Old news. The "rumour" is that they have been interviewing solidly for several months, I hope they are not struggling to find applicants. With lines like:

"Cobham is continuously seeking suitably qualified pilots to join our team as First Officers in an environment where career and lifestyle combine" and "Opportunities to progress to command within relatively short timeframes"

Who could resist?

(My bolding etc)

Icarus2001 19th Oct 2018 03:49


The "rumour" is that they have been interviewing solidly for several months]
You need to be more specific as there are four operations. Regional, Airline, Surveillance as Coastwatch and the SAR work. All different AOCs.


717tech 19th Oct 2018 04:24

Surveillance and AMSA are almost continuously recruiting.... nothing new there.

pilotchute 19th Oct 2018 05:30

I find it funny that the Cobham freight/146 operation hardly ever advertise and seem to have no trouble with retention.

Makes you wonder why the SAR and Coastwatch operation seem to be a revolving door.

logansi 19th Oct 2018 06:00

Its it possible to move within the operations or is recruitment handled externally?

AerocatS2A 19th Oct 2018 10:39


Originally Posted by pilotchute (Post 10286805)
I find it funny that the Cobham freight/146 operation hardly ever advertise and seem to have no trouble with retention.

Makes you wonder why the SAR and Coastwatch operation seem to be a revolving door.

Freight 146s have had very high turnover lately.

Blitzkrieger 19th Oct 2018 10:59

Iím told the 717 turnover is high.

Toruk Macto 19th Oct 2018 11:35

Looking at job recruitment adds for truck drivers and seamen Iím seeing companies offering bases of choice , multiply packages , offering big money for working max hours to reduced rosters / trips to barely working options . Companies willing to tailor individual packages to suit ? .

Airlines so so far behind , donít care except drive the salary down at all costs .

neville_nobody 19th Oct 2018 12:45


Originally Posted by Toruk Macto (Post 10286989)
Airlines so so far behind , don’t care except drive the salary down at all costs .

At the end of the day Airlines are always going to be able to open the floodgates to the world to come and work here with zero resistance from the government.

If a domestic marine business tried that on it will end with WWIII with the CFMEU and most likely the Labor Party. When you've got that kind of fire power behind you can get any kind of rostering you want.

Chocks Away 19th Oct 2018 17:08

Blitz'
It's a MASSIVE turnover EVERYWHERE mate, Australia; Pacific; USA; Asia; Japan; M.E.; Africa; Europe... f'gen everywhere cuz!
Pilots are moving all over the globe in search of better deals and as you see, the "cat-fish"/bottom dwellers of the industry are short of crew!
I haven't ever seen such desperation in crew-hunting by airlines in Australia (though they hide it for of loss of face), in my 3 decade career BECAUSE of what Toruk mentions above - Airlines so so far behind , donít care except drive the salary down at all costs.

The stupidity of Australian Airlines (Int/Domestic & Regional) is, that they think they are soooo special and that they have sooo much to offer.
Well it's time to wake up and smell the coffee because no one now, globally is out there to help crew your staff shortages AND now you are meant to have "Fatigue Management Systems" etc you have to deal with-in constraints finally. OUCH! Long time overdue!

Qantaslink searching in Africa? LOL Emirates/Turkish/Qatar dried up that pool of experienced ones in Africa etc years ago, before all the USA majors started huge recruitment's to cover for their massive number of retirements (huge evac from M.E.). You're in a global market of labour resourcing now kids (Airline CEO's) because you failed to invest in your future streams! Reap what you sow because it's going to cost you more now!

The ball is not in your court finally, so show me the money... and we will fix your parked aircraft against the fence, with the return of many & varied highly experienced Aussie operators from overseas to help clear the mire of the current "divide & conquer" managerial (I use that term VERY losely) expertise (that too) who currently see themselves fit to administer aviation companies.
Can I just, by the way - Accountants are accountants... lawyers are lawyers... stay in your qualified jobs and stop transferring to Industries you know nothing about, such as the very unique Aviation Industry! If you think otherwise, you obviously have no clue or any idea of what happened in the past numerous times from those of your ilk.

pilotchute 20th Oct 2018 00:16

What makes it even more ridiculous is when an airline screaming for crew will still knock back candidates for lack of twin or or multi crew time.

Icarus2001 20th Oct 2018 03:34


At the end of the day Airlines are always going to be able to open the floodgates to the world to come and work here with zero resistance from the government.
Can I respectfully suggest that there is no massive pool of pilots overseas who are being held back by these floodgates. The global nature of aviation has seen to that. Chinese carriers, ever the pragmatists, are simply throwing money at the problem. The ME3 have no idea what to do so are looking at a merger. There may well be a few South Africans and South Americans who would like to move to Australia to work but certainly not huge numbers. I know this talking to managers and recruitment companies who have gone looking and found the well to be dry.

Toruk Macto 20th Oct 2018 04:07

Friend of mine working in oil industry as captain on supply ship , he lives on island of coast of Australia . His company gives him month on month off and flyís him to where ship is , Qantas club , confirmed tickets , he knows when he will be working for next 12 months . At the time Iím flying for company in oil industry and my roster good for a week and after that itís in lap of operational Godís , 2 weeks notice due base closures and get yourself there if you want a job . Place littered with divorced dads , Blokes using alcohol to self medicate , if you donít like it leave was only option ( which I did ) . Respect wonít be given it has to be earnt , conditions wonít improve by therself . Oil prices on way up ? There is a pilot shortage !

Duck Pilot 20th Oct 2018 09:38

Get out of the aviation industry into Oil and Gas if you can, itís a hard nut to crack but itís possible as I did it a few years ago.

gordonfvckingramsay 21st Oct 2018 00:59


You need to be more specific as there are four operations. Regional, Airline, Surveillance as Coastwatch and the SAR work. All different AOCs.
Icarus2001, specifically, I think all of the BUs are trying to hire and rate of turnover is close to matching recruitment rate in some cases.

Toruk Macto 21st Oct 2018 03:13

Qantas have identified the No 1 threat to their business going forward is lack of pilots . For companies like Cobham and regeniols in general it must make sense to have a stable workforce ? Not just pay rates but lifestyle options of commuting contracts , part time or condensed rosters could solve turnover rates ? Chinese carriers will dictate pay rates going forward but Australian lifestyle is attractive if rosters stable and lifestyle ok ?


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