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As a fellow austranaut overseas, I concur. Some of the standards I’ve seen makes me wonder how the aluminium stays in the air. And I’m not just talking minor things either! In fact some of it is so basic, you have to wonder how they went solo. |
Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10263937)
Correct. And the only way he can get one of those is to be invited by an eligible relative already living in Australia.
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Originally Posted by Buswinker
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there is a state sponsored stream and a family sponsored stream, or has that been stopped? |
State sponsorship family sponsorship employer sponsorship are the three different streams (there is independent 189 but not for pilots) obviously in NT state sponsorship basically is Airnorth but that’s not the same as employer sponsorship https://www.australiasnorthernterrit...ominated-visas |
Originally Posted by avi8safely
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I'm not australian nor new zealander, speaking totally different language, meaning that English is not my first language.
I have icao atpl with 2000 tt of which 1500 on 737ng as f/o. I've always looked forward living overseas with my family in consideration of children education, environment, culture, etc., Would it be possible to get a pilot job in oz, if I have my license converted to casa atpl on my own expense and a valid full time work permit? I just want to raise my kids in a country where kids don't talk about what their parents do for living, income, property... If you really want to come here, it's best for you, to go to OZ embassy in Seoul, and apply for direct permanent residency, to live in Australia. If you get residency, you can convert your licence to Australian ( It will be quite expensive), you can possibly get a B737/8 F/O job with Air Pacific, they are frequently advertising, and have a base in Sydney. If you get Australian residency visa, why don't you stay with your company (i'm sure it's Korean/they have B737/8 aircraft), and you commute from Australia? There are 400 foreign nationals working for Korean and commuting worldwide, they have up to 12 days off each month. If you are on B737/8, i don't understand why you want to come here? Korean B737/8 pilots, can transfer to B744 after 3 years, it's more money for you and you can be a Captain in next 10 years. Your other option is to apply for permanent residency AND ASK FOR DARWIN, transfer your family to Darwin and get into Air North on Emb 170 aircraft. Darwin needs people. Wishing you well. |
As someone said your biggest hurdle will be the visa. I have no idea on that matter. As for getting a job on a 737, Qantas have taken some DE FO’s recently as have Virgin. Tiger have 73’s as well. You have as much chance as anyone else, you generally get out of it what you put into it however with QF (being the top dog) you have to get through more testing than the others. I wouldn’t describe people that I’ve seen get into QF as astronauts there’s been a few far from it but they fit the criteria and got in. It’s the most stable and profitable group by far. There is debate on the 737 between conditions QF vs VA. SO Is won by QF. Time to command? Possibly 20+ years at most airlines on a narrow body.
As for the language they will work that out at the interview. You should be aware that Australia can be expensive (SYD MEL) and airline pilots aren’t high earners unless in command at QF or VA. Even then you don’t exactly see Mercs and BMWs in the staff car park. Fo’s I’d say are middle income earners. That’s my take on it, all the best. |
Originally Posted by morno
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As a fellow austranaut overseas, I concur. Some of the standards I’ve seen makes me wonder how the aluminium stays in the air. And I’m not just talking minor things either! In fact some of it is so basic, you have to wonder how they went solo. Speaking of Astronauts - A training centers walls are lined with pilot memorabilia from past and present pilots. It ranges from the strange to the fascinating. Paintings commissioned by the pilot dressed as a Ninja (with sword), to Gulf war etc. flight suits. Numerous pajamas worn in North Vietnamese prison camps. As you walk in the door, there’s an orange space suit. If you lined them up, there would be two. Those are only the Shuttle pilots. It always makes me think of the term Austronaut. :rolleyes: |
Visa's to Australia are not a simple thing, even Visitor Visa' can be difficult or even impossible to get.
The only way to get accurate advice on the visas is to use an Australian Registered Migration Agent (the first two digits of their registration number is the year they first became registered) and preferably one based in Australia. Ringing the Australian embassies or even calling the "immigration department" often results in getting incorrect information. As strange as it may seem these staff members are not qualified to give you advice nor are they accountable when they give wrong advice even if that is in writing. There are a number of Registered Migration Agents I would recommend. If you want a general idea of some things to consider, try visit Australia Forum and ask some visa questions there. |
@Avia8safely: Australia is certainly one place to look into but I'd definitely also consider Canada and the US. Good luck to you and cheers to you being a very mindful parent to your kids' welfare.
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@Bendalot, agree 100% headlines: -there are options -get professional advice |
This is from a Registered Migration Agent around 6 months ago. I have not used her ( I have used several others) but would recommend her from what I have seen.
This is just to give an idea of what sort of cost it will be to find out what visas you could apply for.
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last time I checked Pilots was on the shortage list for Australia, so I would be checking the shortlist' here is a link
https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/...7-18-announced |
Number 99 on the short Term Skilled Occupation List
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Short term list only really helps you get a short term visa. Which is, by necessity, employer sponsored came to mind though that there is an angle we haven’t appreciated- what does your spouse/partner do? (Assuming you have one) that might open up some alternative approaches |
Correct Buswinker the key word being "partner".
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NT government has Aeroplane Pilot on its skilled migration priority list https://nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_...ority-list.pdf Have a read of their skilled migration website for which permanent residency visas they can sponsor you for. Then do some research on whether or not you would meet the points threshold for one of those visas and if you meet all the pre-requisites for both the state nomination and residency visa. Consider whether you think the expense is really worth it given that you might not be considered qualified enough to pilot a C172 despite thousands of hours of experience. If you think it is worth it, convert your license to a CASA ATPL, get them to issue you with the requisite work assessment, apply for state nomination and if successful apply for the relevant PR (or regional visa). If it is granted then begin applying for jobs while carefully considering what restrictions you have on where you must live (if you get this far careful reading of your visa grant notice will provide a clue). A registered migration agent is one way to go but you can do it all yourself with a couple weeks research and access to relevant forums. nb if you do move to Australia, and in particular the NT, your children will consider your occupation to be a disgrace as their mates’ dads and mums will inevitably earn more than you for what you might consider low-skilled work on mine/gas sites. :) |
The NT government has every occupation on its skilled migration priority list! :}
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