QANTAS and Air New Zealand Domestic codeshares
 

NZ had already planned to end its codesharing with VA from 26 October 2018 - originally were just going to book passengers on VA coded services, this since has changed to QF.

Bassicly NZ is now going after VA.

Bold: QF haven't flown domestic in NZ for what, 10 years now? Can't see them starting up again. Air NZ and J* fares are often closely priced already.

Anyway, I agree this is likely a move to block Virgin... on both sides of the ditch. QF picks up all of Air NZ's connections while also making it that much harder for Virgin/Tiger to get a foothold in the NZ Domestic market.

Would be nice if they code-shared ADL-AKL direct as well.

Will Virgin still be able to make money on the Tasman with this news or will they pull the pin?

VA's days on the Tasman are numbered - it had been reported that 75% of there passengers on the Tasman we're flying on an ticket issued by NZ (rather than people booking directly with VA). NZ has already replaced pretty much every seat they have lost of lossing the VA flights, and even made AKL-SYD 5x daily 777 from the end of this year to cover the loss of VA.

Most likely VA will be gone from the New Zealand market within the next 12months - they now have no regional New Zealand feed.

And how much have QF paid NZ for the NZ domestic routes.

Prorate agreements are wonderful (highly confidential) things

Virgin have no one to blame for this happening than themselves. We should have two strong competitors in the country but we have one profitable airline and one circus act... seriously, what is it now... 7 years without a profit (excluding what was it this year, first half, a couple of million off billions in revenue)... the MRB is a one person circus act, the "indestructible Mess-a-mo"... bought SkyWest then got rid of most of the aeroplanes. Bought Tiger and completely stuffed up the 737 and DPS operations, spent money like a drunken sailor and very little to show for it in way of returns... 777 across the Pacific apparently loses money, Australian DOM loses money, regional loses money, presumably now Tasman will lose money. This would have to be the longest string of bad decisions in aviation history (well, OK, maybe not, there was always Pan Am) but what the hell gives.
Idiots being promoted over competent people, people from Air NZ have been heard to comment that it wasn't just the profit it was the expectation that they (NZ) were to jump through hoops if VA had a problem but if NZ had a diversion or something they literally got to the point of just giving their passengers to QF anyway, rather than have them spend 3 hours wandering between NZ and VA counters while VA obfuscate acceptance of FIMs and other standard industry processes. A company that's losing money hand over fist can't even get it's act together to take revenue handed to them on a platter by a partner airline.
Not commenting on VA management is laughable on this forum. There are some great people that work for VA, their crew are really good, but the regime in power is hopeless, absolutely hopeless.
You couldn't write this stuff... it makes it all the more funny that the MRB has introduced lavish ads while he's been there and two of them were based on music used in... you guessed it... Pan Am ads...

I wish that Virgin was doing better as Australia really needs two airlines. It's not a bad product but I echo the statements of other posters. There is a madman at the helm that doesn't know what he is doing!

Seriously what the hell is the board waiting for? 7 years of no profit and the man still has a job.

Obviously it's not a business that they are running....

Wasn't he the Messiah that Qantas missed out on so badly????? Everyone was eating the green grass on the right side of the fence and the Qantas lads/lass' were crying into their blankets?

Yes and hasn't the media gone seriously quiet on that front now... I don't think there's any doubt that the person running it is out and out incompetent... sorting mail perhaps was the intellectual limit and everything since perhaps just expensive suits and saying yes to the right people. I think the reality is that, while not always a paragon of business efficiency and virtue itself, the Board obviously saw right through him and appointed someone else.

Followed by the taking of ones bat and ball and leaving then making his raison d'etre at the new outfit to get back at the old company, not to make the new one a better business.

I just fear for all those hard workers and decent people that are hanging on a string... seriously, you could toss out nearly all of the management tomorrow and the place would probably run better and no one would notice except for a drastic reduction in the parroting of weasel words in every single unnecessary meeting.

Bingo. We have a winner.