Qantas FO vs SO
Hi Folks,
what is the difference in QF between a First Officer compared to a Second Officer? Is it seniority? Is the SO something like a cruise relief pilot who is only allowed in the right seat during cruise flight, or is can he do take offs and landings as well? Thanks LW20 |
SO is a cruise relief pilot.
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QF long haul flights operate with Captain, F/O and either one or two S/Os depending on the sector length. The S/Os are Cruise relief only. In either seat above FL200.
Promotion to F/O on seniority and competence. |
Originally Posted by Keg
(Post 10096923)
Promotion to F/O on seniority and competence.
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Originally Posted by LW20
(Post 10096913)
Hi Folks,
what is the difference in QF between a First Officer compared to a Second Officer? Is it seniority? Is the SO something like a cruise relief pilot who is only allowed in the right seat during cruise flight, or is can he do take offs and landings as well? Thanks LW20 (In joke with SO mates. No need to post angry replies) |
Originally Posted by ruprecht
(Post 10096936)
...and willingness.
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...and willingness |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 10097133)
...to take a pay cut and work harder! :}
There's no doubt it's much harder work though! |
Originally Posted by AmarokGTI
(Post 10097078)
Easiest way to identify a Second Officer is on Instagram. All in flight photos will be with them in the left seat, accompanied by captions such as “I just ‘flew’ the old girl to London again tonight, now time for beers with the boys”
(In joke with SO mates. No need to post angry replies) |
Thanks for the quick replies.
Brgds. LW20 |
what is the difference in QF between a First Officer compared to a Second Officer …..between Dubai and London or Singa's and Sydney.:ok: |
Well that was all very disappointing, after seeing the thread title and expecting to read about something like a punch-up over crew meals.
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Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard
(Post 10097249)
Well that was all very disappointing, after seeing the thread title and expecting to read about something like a punch-up over crew meals.
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Originally Posted by C441
(Post 10097245)
The S/O's the one who's eaten 3 crew meals, usually the fish and a breakfast, 2 steak sangas, done 5 hours straight in the bunk and come back in time for the left over First Class brekky and a quick sunrise selfie in the LH seat while the Captain goes for a pre-descent slash.…….
…..between Dubai and London or Singa's and Sydney.:ok: |
Wow the crew meals sound different to ours. Most get sent back, very few eat them.
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You get good at being an SO after 17 years apparently |
Originally Posted by Ken Borough
(Post 10097503)
Does the time to F/O at Qantas take that long? What happens when a S/O is eligible for upgrade to F/O but declines to take it up after a reasonable time?
There are already ‘new’ hires who are 737 FOs. |
Lifestyle choice for sure-if you don't need any personal satisfaction from your flying 'job' or no professional ambition and have outside interests/family etc then I guess it works for some. Can't think of anything worse than not having a window seat -let alone for for years-even with outside interests there has to be a modicum of professional satisfaction!
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Can't think of anything worse than training as a pilot and then my airline forbids me to fly the aircraft.
Do S/O's get a proper Type Rating or are they less qualified than an F/O? In my Uk airline all pilots recruited are fully trained to operate as co-pilots in a two crew cockpit. Many of the shorter Long Haul trips on 777/787/744/A380 are operated with just two crew. Extra crew are carried for crew rest requirements on longer trips, but all fully trained on the Type and share the landings as required for recency. Presumably the S/O scenario is a cost saving exercise by the company. |
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