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morno 28th Feb 2018 02:46

PF should not be making FMGC entries below 10,000ft

Arthur D 28th Feb 2018 13:30

Agree Morno, in fact, not from TOD.

Whether Airbus or Boeing, philosophy is the same.

Biggest difference in the Airbus is the GA. Whilst one click on TOGA gives you a sedate climb in a Boeing, the only option in the Airbus is to hang on and let your fingers do the walking... If you don’t get the box programmed, it can get even more interesting.

Now try that with a GA from 1000’ to circuit altitude.

morno 28th Feb 2018 23:50

Yes, it can be interesting if it’s happening all of a sudden without the right **** in the box.

A go-around that isn’t close to the ground for me always starts by saying to the PM “ok, are you ready?”, and then once I’ve read the FMA it’s straight back to the climb detent.

morno

GA Driver 1st Mar 2018 03:24

Not a ‘Toga Tap’ I hope! :=
That would be against everything sacred, common sense and everything taught..... (although I recall my training captain telling me how to do it) :E

ANCIENT 1st Mar 2018 08:02

Check-out FCOM/PRO/NOR/SOP/20/A
This has been current since 30 Jun 15.
"If TOGA thrusts not required, set the thrust levers to TOGA detent then retard the thrust levers as required...etc"

morno 1st Mar 2018 12:58

No, not a “TOGA tap”. It can’t be a TOGA tap if I’ve read the FMA and then got back to Climb, because it’s well and truely in the go-around phase by then.

C441 1st Mar 2018 21:32

Some Airbus aircraft have "Soft GA" capability. Select TOGA and back to FLX/MCT. This provides a minimum 2000ft/min climb with all the other functions of a normal TOGA application.


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