Thump and Go, Maroochydore
 

Reports on the tube that a Virgin flight thumped onto the ground rather hard, and went around to divert to Brisbane, suspecting that something was broken, and didn't want to be stranded at MCY?

Interviews with the "terrified" pax were dramatised somewhat. "We hit the ground and then we heard a big bang!"

Is that a good idea, or was he on a promise back in Brisvegas?

Was What a good idea?

MCY is narrow and short, so the potential for inadvertent misjudgement is real.

Without knowing the facts, having an aeroplane with an undercarriage problem, even if it is just an inspection that might require a gear swing, is problematic, so a quick divert to Brisbane is not such a silly idea.

If he/she had a real concern around the safety of the aircraft then Brisbane with better services again isnt such a silly idea.

If I drove it into the ground so hard that it ended up with a baulked landing and go around and I also was concerned that I had damaged something on/in the gear I would not land back in MCY. Might as well go to a much bigger runway with engineering support like BNE, seems like a sensible decision to me....... if it's true!

emulating the ATR in CB I guess..

How many hard landings can a carrier endure?

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2016-042/

Hard landing is a hard landing, happens all the time. Pax and the latest wave of cabin crew can be a bit ‘sensitive’ about said landings, yet know one really seems to understand about the need to stop before the end of the runway so a ‘firm’ landing might actually be intentional god forbid :rolleyes:

There was a thump and stop crumpled at Hervy Bay, anyone have info on it?

Heavy Landings requiring engineering inspections whether Phase 1 or worse are not that regular in Airlines.

Oh yes they are. Look back through a Maintenance log and you will see it is not that uncommon. Lots of new crew mixed with low sector experience commanders, high weight landings into short fields in demanding weather conditions and these conditions produce a fairly regular occurrence of such.

Not helped by the fact that CASA allows so many non standard 30m runways, which never seem to be widened. How long can an airport be exempted for before they actually build a runway to the law?

Get out into the real world and MCY is not a third world airport. The aircraft type is certified for ops there...end of story.

I guess you would say London City Airport is dangerous...lots of traffic there by jets with a steep approach to boot.

[these comments reflect the training here where circuits resemble cross-countries...]

It's short and it's narrow and from what I saw recently it is just that. Still, brand new runway going in soon, so somebody has got the message.

Near-jets only (microbusses, hushpuppies and other smallish twins) not 737s...

Not sure, let's have a look at the whole sample of reports on the ATSB website, now which operator has more of these occurences?

I wouldn't call the 133 seat CS100 a small jet. The point is that proper training gets aircraft in and out of all sorts of airports. The new runway at MCY is to enable use by A330 size jets to enhance international ops...

C206
 

Yeah an Ausjet C206 hit the Deck a Bit Hard sprayed the main gear hit the carrier Pod & folded the Nose gear forward also did the Prop tips !

Funny that how people get upset when they are INJURED from a hard landing !!

Word is that there were injuries.

Watch this space for the cause!

Maybe that is because circuits are normally not part of type rating or recurrent training in airline simulators. Pity, because circuits in simulators are just the thing to sharpen manual flying skills which many airline crews need.

That's not my point though. My point is that the standard is 45m. Yet CASA keep allowing these 30m runways. Why don't they just enforce the standard and make RPT operations a bit safer?

Don't give CA$A any more ideas - "Hey, let's force every regional airport to re-build their runways, it won't cost much..."

The runway doesn't get widened, the airline goes away, aviation retreats again under the CA$A on$laught of fee$ and co$t$.