Better than the rest of us?
 

Is anyone able to confirm that someone refused to switch his tablet to flight mode on QF 2133 (Canberra to Melbourne) today thereby causing a return to the gate?

If it's true - what is wrong with these people? Flight time just over an hour yet he feels the needs to be online. So many people these days believe that the world revolves around them!

Why the fuss? the pilots are sitting up there with theirs on.

I am a commuter between Brisbane and Melbourne. In the last 6 months I have noticed a trend for passengers to simply ignore the requests of crew to "switch devices to flight mode" so much so that on four occasions in the last couple of months passengers have initiated or received phone calls on taxi out or, on two occasions, on the take off roll. In each case the crew ignored it despite it being quite obvious who was infringing the policy.

I'm sure it's the same on all carriers, but I find it frustrating that an announcement is made, the majority of passengers ignore it and no-one thinks that it may be necessary to either allow the use of these devices or actually make some effort to ensure compliance with a regulatory requirement.

Last item in the before start checklist before getting the clearance to pushback "PEDs to flight mode". Thats in the airline I work for anyway.

There are eejits everywhere! :ugh::ugh::ugh:

I thought Airnorth was the only one flying Ejets now?

I've often wondered why CASA don't send FOIs onboard and prosecute a few who don't switch off/flight mode. Would soon get the message across via the media..

They'd probably prosecute the crew for not enforcing the use of Flight Mode.

Article mentions 'Friday night' without specifying which Friday night.

https://www.3aw.com.au/selfish-ceo-f...-flight-delay/

And about as regularly obeyed as the 'do not remove headsets until top of climb' regulation from my experience. I recall a certain checky getting a phone call around 500 ft on approach a while ago... :}

I was on an Air India (never again) flight once. 2 men were pacing up and down the aisle during the take off using their phones despite repeated requests to sit down by the FA's. There seems to be something in the Indian culture where men will not take instructions from women...

What is the regulation regarding flight mode?

From the CASA website: https://www.casa.gov.au/aircraft/sta...ty-information

I was wondering more about an actual reg.

I know that is it is reg if it is in the Ops Manual, but I never remembered seeing a standalone one.

And a few other cultures.

It would be an offense under part 2, division 3 of the Crimes (Aviation) Act 1991 with maximum penalty of 10-20 years depending on the actual charge. It would not be CASA, it would be the AFP.

That is the Australian law enacting the Tokyo Convention and another treaty, it also gives the power to captain to arrest people on flights in Australia, i.e. if someone failed to turn off a PED, return to their seat, smoking onboard etc, the captain could arrest the person and the the passenger would most likely face a court.

Is there here a double-standard? Compare and contrast: a CEO refuses to obey the lawful direction of a crew member by refusing to comply with the law WRT his mobile phone. Aircraft returns to the gate, pax apparently off-loaded and then silence as to whether police called, arrest made, charges laid, pax banned or sanctioned by carrier etc etc. On the other hand a bogan gets drunk, or partially drunk, on an aircraft and misbehaves. Police are called, pax is off-loaded, arrested, charged, convicted and fined etc etc.

To me, the CEO's behaviour is far worse than that of the drunk bogan on a number of grounds yet his treatment would appear to be much more lenient. Why so? Discuss.

Possibly that the probability of violence on board is higher with the bogan than the CEO. Both would be equally capable, but I'd be betting on the drunk bogan to start trouble first.
I agree that the line between the two is somewhat blurred.

SWH, surpringly the relevant parts of the Tokyo convention must be part of the relevant state and territory crimes act. How the AFP fit into that, I have no idea

Surely a quick-thinking PA announcement would have solved the problem causing minimal delay.

"Folks, you may have noticed us taxiing back to the terminal. Its all thanks to the selfish ignoramus in seat 3A who is refusing to switch his personal electronic device to flight mode. You might like to share your opinion with him as his refusal to follow CASA regulations will cause you all personally at least a 20 min delay at your destination. Whilst we would never condone physical assault, common f@rkin courtesy IS our number one priority."

Quickly followed by "Thank you for your prompt cooperation, would seat rows 4 to 20 please return to their seats, ensure their seatbelts are fastened, and pick up any errant PED parts on the way."