Typically 2-3 weeks in the delivery center. System tests, minor rectifications, test flight(s), repairing accidental damage, tyre kicking by the customer...

Plus Export C of A, Registration, Insurances and the balance of payment to Boeing.

Qatar (and most others) have their aircraft online within 48hrs after delivery.

They are trying to drum up publicity for the thing. It’s not working Alan, your about 600 frames late to the party nobody cares.

Really? For a first of type Qatar have the thing flying revenue services 48 hours after delivery? I'd be very surprised if this was the case. Maybe aeroplane 6 onward will be hitting the line fairly quickly but I don't think the time frame for jets 1 and 2 is unreasonable.

I reckon the PR campaign has been pretty good. Sure, most pilots within the industry see through the spin but from talking with friends and others outside the industry, it's generating huge interest.

It is the reality that instead of his random walk in Asia with JQ, they could have 'transformed' Qantas with a fuel efficient fleet.

Qantas burns 3.5 million tonnes of jet fuel to fly 150 odd million ASK.
Other airlines can halve the jet fuel required to generate ASK by flying an efficient fleet (long range twins)

Given IATA came up with their targets for CO2 emissions reduction in 2009 (when Mr Joyce was CEO and Chairman of IATA in 2013), Mr Joyce is a day late and dollar short again....

Qantas agreed to IATA's targets:

'The aviation industry recognizes the need to address the global challenge of climate change and in2009 adopted a set of ambitious targets to mitigate CO2 emissions from air transport:

• An average improvement in fuel efficiency of 1.5% per year from 2009 to 2020

• A cap on net aviation CO2 emissions from 2020 (carbon-neutral growth)

• A reduction in net aviation CO2emissions of 50%by 2050, relative to 2005 levels'

With the fuel burn of the current fleet, Qantas will need to retire the 747 fleet, substituting 787 to reduce the fuel carriage and consequently the CO2 emission.to beat the requirements. 'Growth' of Qantas :=

Still can't see $25 million worth of value add, although for sheer audacity he is 'head and shoulders' in the lead! He is hardly 'game changing, not even at the right park! As wheels down stated, air-frames in the 600's are nothing new,except in Australia,( ignoring JQ 788) media foaming at the mouth for a Chairman's lounge membership or Seattle 'junket' ensure he is seen as some sort of visionary...

Sadly everyone knows that, but QF have had to suffer under Dixon (who thought that 777s were old hat), and Joyce who sees everything in orange.

Be nice to have a CEO with the best interests of the company in mind, but that will never happen

It started before that with JS trying his level best to destroy anything and everything that was credible about Qantas... even wanted to change the name... and they put his name on an aeroplane... unbelievable.

JS started the rot... and the dishonesty post-public float started with the government providing a $1.1bn capital injection (because BA had insisted the business be capitalised adequately rather than the previous 47 years of $164m in total) before they bought in.

Commonwealth cheque for $1.1bn goes into the bank, expands the company's equity from about $900m to $2bn - and it is obviously lower geared and able to pay down debt, so profit increases but JS claimed it was his team's work.

Of course a business' profit is going to double if it gets that sort of capital poured in.

I remember seeing a letter to a customer once that was complaining about seating after turning up last to check in and part of the response was "... I and my team have made great strides over the last 18 months but I cannot wave a magic wand and make 33,000 people work as they should overnight..." Disgusting. Many of us worked very hard but in a letter that most wouldn't have seen, the then CEO dumped on everyone.

I'd seen many letters from Ward and Menadue and they never wrote those things, they'd always support the staff, deal with the customer complaint and then deal with the internal issue separately, not publicly.

So, this attitude is not new, there's been wholesale weasel wording and obfuscation going on since before Dixon and it started the moment the bow-tied clown took over and started the circus act (BTW, RIP JS, I wish he hadn't died but no sense in not being truthful about what he did in reflecting on his time).

(and it's no surprise to anyone that one of the few QF people that survived is now running the opposition into the ground... it would seem he prospered under JS because he said all the right things and now seems to be being shown as not very capable - 5 years, no profit).

The industry is not what it was.