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Well at least Cate Blanchart is not the only nominated female, with 'Elaine' helping to increase the representation. :ok:

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Being devil's advocate, hasn't Joyce done a good job turning QF around and getting it's share price up?

In that case he should hand it back if the share price falls?

Mjb

V-Jet _ that Gary pukes forever you posted is as gross and distasteful as some of the practices of some people who bat for the other side. (A good old Irish saying?}

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Originally Posted by Al E. Vator (Post 9800651)

..if I'm correct this nonsense has been going on for years. SIR Peter Abeles of TNT/Ansett fame helped attain the title via his friend SIR Robert Askin, neither outstanding citizens? Subsequently he was appointed by mate PM Hawke to the board of the Reserve Bank.
And another case of a spoilt rich boy crashing a plane via inexperience and then being awarded one of these for bravery or some such.

Being devil's advocate, hasn't Joyce done a good job turning QF around and getting it's share price up?
Being realistic however, hasn't he just done done his job? Is that really "services to aviation"?
It does seem to place undue value sets on people who just do their jobs rather than people who excel for an extraordinary feat or achievement (e.g.: Sir Charles Kingsford Smith)

Er, mentioning Hawke and Abeles, can cause digestive problems in ancient airman. Most of us hope we live long enough, to have the best pi## up ever, then procede to Hawke's place of rest. It will be a great relief.

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Originally Posted by Ida down (Post 9801091)

I do know how to spell, "proceed". The Tablet insisted on a new version, of which I am not familiar.

Was it a coincidence that in the lead up to the awards, there were Qantas adds constantly on Facebook, going on about indigenous culture and heritage, and LGBTI rights? And then after the awards they have all stopped, not one???? It's a system where you have to meet certain criteria and tick boxes. Most of the recipients wanted one so they followed the script and found the right person to nominate them

As part of my job - I had to write an AO application for my boss's boss last year.
The nominee is an arrant narcissist who presents as highly engaging, is known as such by his peers but appears extremely nationally and internationally successful in his field.
And no - I couldn't refuse to help - to do so would be career limiting.

tartare

Now you know that it's a fairly simple and straightforward process, you have the opportunity to ease your conscience by nominating someone who really deserves recognition.

I knew a few people who were involved with the evaluation of nominations and some who were contacted to provide, anonymous, referees reports.

Relying on their tales (and without knowing any names) ...

Not all nominations get an award.

Not all referees reports are supportive.

regards
layman

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I'm not an avid supporter of the Republic-for-Australia push but the Queen's Birthday honours list never fails to confirm my thought that the annual festival of, usually undeserving, recipients wallowing in their own importance, is as good a reason as any to move to a local head of State.

Not really a Republican issue, all these awards are decided here in Australia and would continue to be so, with or without a republic.

I can think of at least four people in our local Lions Club who are more deserving that Joyce.