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dijical 7th Jun 2017 04:52

Who is starting RPT to Wollongong?
 
"Commercial passenger flights could be taking off from Albion Park airport as early as October, Shellharbour mayor Marianne Saliba announced on Monday. Cr Saliba also said negotiations with a carrier – which is yet to be revealed but is likely to be operated under an exclusive agreement – were reaching “the fine print”.

The destinations for the service are also yet to be confirmed, however it’s believed the flights will connect the Illawarra to Brisbane and Melbourne."

Passenger flights at Illawarra airport ready to start this year: mayor | Illawarra Mercury

Goat Whisperer 7th Jun 2017 05:02

sounds like a job for JetGo!

TBM-Legend 7th Jun 2017 05:37

Twas a dud for QFLink..

BNEA320 7th Jun 2017 05:48


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 9795073)
Twas a dud for QFLink..

QF link flights were doing well before the closure of the, was it steelworks ?

maggot 7th Jun 2017 05:56

well its obviously malindo WOL direct ZQN

engine out 7th Jun 2017 07:13

Qlink flights did ok, but yes they were predicated (or so I am told) on BHP using a certain number of seats, and business travellers using the service. I think this time they are looking more towards the domestic leisure market. It will be interested to see how air fares shape up. It does say in local press that whoever the airline is will have an exclusivity contract initially, not that airlines appear to be falling over themselves to operate into the Gong. I do hope it is successful otherwise I think it will be a hard sell getting anybody else to take up the challenge

NumptyAussie 7th Jun 2017 10:20

Maybe they are going to use JTs 707??

Horatio Leafblower 7th Jun 2017 11:54

WOL NBR?
There is a large workforce in Wollongong and a large need at Narrabri.
I notice there is also a big ugly demountable building that has apeared there in the last couple of weeks under the 747s wingtip...

Historically, Impulse used to do pretty well out of WOL to MEL.

BPA 7th Jun 2017 11:55

Impulse's 1900D flights to Melboune did well. Biggest problem these days is the average punter doesn't want to pay more than $80-100 each way and it will be hard for any regional airline to have fares at that price out of Wollongong.

Ixixly 7th Jun 2017 21:28

Damn it Horatio, does that mean they'll be setting that area up at RPT Only parking near the 747? Cause that was the only decent parking area left in bloody Wollongong!

LostProperty 7th Jun 2017 22:55

I'm probably drifting the thread a little but similar topic. I've noticed Sharp operating a Metro between Coffs, Ballina and the Gold Coast a bit during the last couple of weeks. Don't think I've seen one of their aircraft as far north before. Nothing about a new service that I could find on their website.

BPA 7th Jun 2017 23:29


Originally Posted by LostProperty (Post 9795962)
I'm probably drifting the thread a little but similar topic. I've noticed Sharp operating a Metro between Coffs, Ballina and the Gold Coast a bit during the last couple of weeks. Don't think I've seen one of their aircraft as far north before. Nothing about a new service that I could find on their website.

I think they are operating the freight run. Back when I did them the Metro/MU2 would go BK-CH-BNA-CG return.

Horatio Leafblower 8th Jun 2017 02:57

My source close to Wollongong airport says JetGo are going to do MEL and BNE.

dijical 8th Jun 2017 03:18


Originally Posted by Horatio Leafblower (Post 9796082)
My source close to Wollongong airport says JetGo are going to do MEL and BNE.

I reckon your source is spot on. The interesting question will be whether Jetgo can offer prices and schedule to make WOL competitive with the slightly longer travel time to Sydney Airport.

This won't be like offering Melbourne or Brisbane flights from Dubbo, Wagga or Albury where there is no direct competition. The airports are only 90km apart, and from Wollongong CBD it's only 55km closer than Sydney. On the positive side, the potential market is 300,000 people.

It will be interesting. I really hope they succeed, but they may need stronger nerves and more perseverance than they showed in Port Macquarie. Bring out the popcorn! :}

Deano969 8th Jun 2017 06:32

Don't just look at how many kilometers difference it is
It is well over 1 hour 15 minutes with no traffic issues to KSA and that is outside morning and afternoon peaks where the time easily doubles
Plus avoiding KSA is an added bonus
Factor in parking costs and travel time etc and the likes of JetGo with the right size aircraft should be able to make a go of it

That said, I would have thought that the Gold Coast may have been a better choice over Brisbane why?
Melbourne - Albion Park - Gold Coast - Rockhampton - Townsville - (add in Cairns) and return daily and that opens up endless possibilities of getting bums on seats

No surprise that Melbourne - Port Maq failed
Port Macquarie is more of a Sydney getaway for the weekend, mostly by car and a stop off for the Grey Nomads, I wouldn't think that many from Melbourne would consider Port Maq high up on the list for a holiday, so they would have had to rely mainly on business travelers and locals going to Melbourne
A lot of the Port Macquarie air transport is getting passengers, mostly retirees to Sydney and onto international flights

BNEA320 8th Jun 2017 23:04


Originally Posted by Deano969 (Post 9796174)
Don't just look at how many kilometers difference it is
It is well over 1 hour 15 minutes with no traffic issues to KSA and that is outside morning and afternoon peaks where the time easily doubles
Plus avoiding KSA is an added bonus
Factor in parking costs and travel time etc and the likes of JetGo with the right size aircraft should be able to make a go of it

That said, I would have thought that the Gold Coast may have been a better choice over Brisbane why?
Melbourne - Albion Park - Gold Coast - Rockhampton - Townsville - (add in Cairns) and return daily and that opens up endless possibilities of getting bums on seats

No surprise that Melbourne - Port Maq failed
Port Macquarie is more of a Sydney getaway for the weekend, mostly by car and a stop off for the Grey Nomads, I wouldn't think that many from Melbourne would consider Port Maq high up on the list for a holiday, so they would have had to rely mainly on business travelers and locals going to Melbourne
A lot of the Port Macquarie air transport is getting passengers, mostly retirees to Sydney and onto international flights

yes who anywhere near WOL would want to fly out of SYD ?

Feel it's all about Jetgo schedules & getting them right. Can Jetgo base an aircraft at WOL ?

Maybe Jetgo could link up with a few int carriers ex MEL, offering connections at MEL.

Deano969 9th Jun 2017 02:39


Originally Posted by BNEA320 (Post 9796974)
yes who anywhere near WOL would want to fly out of SYD ?

Feel it's all about Jetgo schedules & getting them right. Can Jetgo base an aircraft at WOL ?

Maybe Jetgo could link up with a few int carriers ex MEL, offering connections at MEL.

I would not see them needing a base at Albion Park, they will likely just replace the MEL PQQ run
Agree that international connections would play a large part in their business plan for the route

JetGo are certainly looking for niche markets to build their business, that said, I wonder if they are making much money starting up and canceling routes on a frequent basis with small jets, far flung crew bases and plenty of positioning flights
Their routes seem a bit all over the place to me with no hub or main base, but there you go

dijical 9th Jun 2017 03:37


Originally Posted by Deano969 (Post 9796174)
No surprise that Melbourne - Port Maq failed
Port Macquarie is more of a Sydney getaway for the weekend, mostly by car and a stop off for the Grey Nomads, I wouldn't think that many from Melbourne would consider Port Maq high up on the list for a holiday, so they would have had to rely mainly on business travelers and locals going to Melbourne
A lot of the Port Macquarie air transport is getting passengers, mostly retirees to Sydney and onto international flights

So you reckon Wollongong is much higher up the list as a holiday destination from Melbourne than Port Macquarie? I have my doubts.

And people are no more likely to catch a flight from Wollongong to Melbourne or Brisbane for a weekend getaway or onto international flights than from Port Macq.

So I wouldn't dismiss the similarity to Jetgo's poor results in Port Macq too quickly.
Like I said, it will be interesting to watch.

BNEA320 9th Jun 2017 06:00

if Qatar survive the current terrorist dramas, they could offer Jetgo, deal from hell to feed pax from Wol to Mel to connect with Qatar flights.

dijical 9th Jun 2017 06:32


Originally Posted by BNEA320 (Post 9797143)
if Qatar survive the current terrorist dramas, they could offer Jetgo, deal from hell to feed pax from Wol to Mel to connect with Qatar flights.

Jetgo flies to Essendon. You might save an hours commute to Sydney airport, but spend an additional 3 hours flying to Essendon and transferring. No chance.


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