Originally Posted by Ida down
(Post 9765418)
Obviously, some elderly staffer, did not appreciate the ring.
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Publicity stunt, new LH route announcements, a spare change of clothes.
Modern clowns wear suits these days. |
Originally Posted by Another Number
(Post 9765450)
So throwing a harmless lemon meringue pie is a heinous assault, but throwing the book is warranted?
He's lucky he didn't cop a shoe!* *Probably wouldn't need to duck to avoid it, though... Reminds me of a story told by Billy Connolly, while doing a show in Brisbane an old bloke stepped up on the stage and called him a "filthmonger" (to which Connolly replied "Aye, that's a pretty accurate description") then took a swing at him. Connolly of course remarked that he wasn't hurt, as the guy made a common mistake of thinking his chin went all the way to the end of his beard. LOL Not wanting to highlight what you have re Joyce's stature but it does beg the question whether this guy would have been so quick to do this if it was Dixon or some other fairly tall person with a bit of mongrel about them... probably not I suspect. |
Appreciative staff should look after any legal bills for services rendered regardless of the reason. Despite the public response, I doubt a vindictive and nasty little man will take this well. Hitler hung his assailants up with piano wire and purged something like 7000 others. Come to think of it, excluding piano wire, that's a not an unfamiliar figure!
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I'm with Aerial Perspective.
One thing is to say "I'd like to knock his block off" and another is to, without provocation or even worse from behind actually hit a person or jam a pie in their face. Turns out it was about the marriage equality issue. Makes conservatives look like fools. Playing right into the hands of the Lefties. That's just my own standard. |
Just some religious zealot who resents Alan Joyce's right to express his view on same sex marriage. There should be more people like Mr Joyce in society who are not scared to come out and be what they are-BTW- it is not illegal to be gay, but it is illegal to throw a pie in some ones face. When will the self indulgent religious right grow up.
Thank goodness we did not have a plebiscite on gay marriage. |
There should be more people like Mr Joyce Self serving r sole. Had a close call with prostate cancer, makes prostate cancer an issue through Qantas. I don't recall any input until then. He's openly a homosexual, so pushes the homosexual cause through Qantas avenues including staff wearing insignia. I'm surprised there's not some form of dental cause doing the rounds. A pie in the face? Who really cares. |
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...10-gw1hud.html
Mr Overheu told radio station 6PR he objected to Qantas' support for marriage equality, which he labelled "corporate bullying aimed at social engineering" |
Originally Posted by p.j.m
(Post 9766323)
'We won't be suppressed': Qantas boss Alan Joyce 'reinvigorated' by pie to the face
Quote: Mr Overheu told radio station 6PR he objected to Qantas' support for marriage equality, which he labelled "corporate bullying aimed at social engineering". |
I absolute commend Joyce for standing strong in what he believes.
Bullying and assault has absolutely no place in this world, regardless of what you think on the issue or Joyce as a CEO. IMHO, the only mistake he's made is to pursue civil charges. If he really wants to champion the cause of acceptance, he'd have done well to let the police sort it out and not got involved. Nothing would have been more dignified than indicating he wasn't going to pursue a civil case, because he'd much rather focus his efforts on positives of the cause. A lost opportunity to take the moral high ground, methinks. |
Originally Posted by RENURPP
(Post 9766208)
Not in my opinion there shouldn't.
Self serving r sole. Had a close call with prostate cancer, makes prostate cancer an issue through Qantas. I don't recall any input until then. He's openly a homosexual, so pushes the homosexual cause through Qantas avenues including staff wearing insignia. I'm surprised there's not some form of dental cause doing the rounds. A pie in the face? Who really cares. Ever considered that if it weren't for pooftas, you probably wouldn't have a computer to type on. And hey, as a result you might have even been speaking German now - or Japanese... |
I'm a bit surprised that Waleed hasn't started some sort of f@cebook campaign.
#illridewithyou |
.Good on you mate. Ever considered that if it weren't for pooftas, you probably wouldn't have a computer to type on. And hey, as a result you might have even been speaking German now - or Japanese... The guy is a d**k, but far more so because he didn't pie the tool when he was conducting grandstanding operations during his epiphany 'let's shut the place down' speech. Joyce is a vindictive jealous little man who harbours grudges and doesn't like looking like a fool - which is why he sacks anyone who does disagree with him. A mate told me it was on CNN in the US. He won't take this lying down and it will have shaken him. |
Lovely.
Glad to see some true intellectuals coming out of the woodwork... :rolleyes: |
Good on you Tartare,Ret and Slippery Pete. RENURPP did you know that Australias greatest ever Olympian and someone who you probably cheered wildly in 2000 is openly gay. Scary 'eh, wow.........
Ian Thorpe if you are having another senior moment. |
I couldn't give a rats hetro/homonsexual or whatever. It's 2017 and you like what you like. I don't think many people REALLY care, let's move on....
BUT I can't image a 'hetro' campaign pushed by an international airline, being particularly kosher with locals or very well regarded by anyone really. So why bother pushing at all is my question? It's the wrong industry if your homophobic. |
Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead
(Post 9766532)
Good on you Tartare,Ret and Slippery Pete. RENURPP did you know that Australias greatest ever Olympian and someone who you probably cheered wildly in 2000 is openly gay. Scary 'eh, wow.........
Ian Thorpe if you are having another senior moment. |
Must be Eurovision time again with all them princesses grandstanding around.
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Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete
(Post 9766412)
Bullying and assault has absolutely no place in this world, regardless of what you think on the issue or Joyce as a CEO. Given that was a group of people (rather than a lone individual), and they've refused to apologise, and their actions are consistent with bullying from other rainbow activist groups in recent times, I'm wondering why there's been such little condemnation of them?
Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete
(Post 9766412)
IMHO, the only mistake he's made is to pursue civil charges. If he really wants to champion the cause of acceptance, he'd have done well to let the police sort it out and not got involved. A lost opportunity to take the moral high ground, methinks.[/QUOTE] |
Originally Posted by Ret Sabala
(Post 9766155)
Just some religious zealot who resents Alan Joyce's right to express his view on same sex marriage. There should be more people like Mr Joyce in society who are not scared to come out and be what they are-BTW- it is not illegal to be gay, but it is illegal to throw a pie in some ones face. When will the self indulgent religious right grow up.
Thank goodness we did not have a plebiscite on gay marriage. |
Keg, why are you defending what is basically a hate group?
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le pingouin
I am confused. Who is Keg defending ? |
Not his choice to make. It's actually the call of the police as to whether someone gets charged though. . The Police have charged Overheu with providing false details. Joyce has said he intends to press assault charges. Not the Police - but Joyce. |
Originally Posted by Keg
(Post 9766607)
Like the threats of violence endured by people trying to attend the ACL meeting? It's not illegal to be Christian but it is illegal to threaten violence against them. Sadly the coppers are more likely to take action against the lone Nutter than the groups that threaten violence against those attending the ACL meeting.
The supposed "threats" were comments on the hotel's social media page from people saying they would boycott the hotel for hosting this event. That is a legitimate form of protest. Not what the pie thrower did, when he committed a clear public act of assault. |
Originally Posted by le Pingouin
(Post 9766644)
Keg, why are you defending what is basically a hate group?
Not that I have any skin in that game as an atheist. Your statement does, however, highlight how the LBGTIQABCDEFG brigade just live to preach tolerance of their opinions on one hand, while demonstrating a complete lack of it themselves for anyone with a differing view. It's pathetic really. |
All this twisted logic reminds me of a time in history when people in brown shirts stood out the front of Jewish businesses in a legitimate form of protest. If anything history shows that it went well for them, in fact if blocking access and threats of death don't work against these hate groups then perhaps the final solution might be ghettos and camps. Just an idea.
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Originally Posted by IsDon
(Post 9766914)
Calling the Australian Christian Lobby a "hate group" is a bit of a stretch don't you think?
Not that I have any skin in that game as an atheist. Your statement does, however, highlight how the LBGTIQABCDEFG brigade just live to preach tolerance of their opinions on one hand, while demonstrating a complete lack of it themselves for anyone with a differing view. It's pathetic really. If I call the klu-klux-klan a hate group am I being intolerant? I'm afraid not all opinions are worth of tolerance. And bigotry against an entire group of people for perfectly natural behaviour, for merely loving other people, I'm afraid that doesn't qualify as something we have to be tolerant of. When people try to deny others, who are harming no-one, rights, for religious reasons, well I'm afraid we're secular mate, keep your god out of our lives. People can believe what someone high on hallucenagenic cactii in the bronze age wrote if they want, but I'm afraid it is irrelevant to 21st century society. Playing the religion card is so tiresome. I feel the same way about christians speaking special protections as I do about any other relgious group who want to bring pre-enlightenment nonsense into society. I imagine you don't think much of sharia law? So why is christian nonsense any different? Maybe I should claim special protections on the basis of my belief in Zeus? The ancient greeks were of course pretty flexible about sexuality, ahead of their time in so many ways. Sorry guys, the world is leaving you behind, your views will soon be as outdated as a racists. So you better ask yourselves why this is different to you, and frankly, why do you care? I guess it does give you some hilarious jokes. 'bent little leprechaun'. oh my sides. The wit! |
Well, that escalated quickly...
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Using a company and its resource base when you are one of the most over compensated airline executives is a little crass.
Perhaps instead of spending time and money, which will likely be the shareholder's also, perhaps Alan could be magnanimous and demonstrate he is the 'bigger' man and help these two unfortunate people. Indonesian prosecutors demand gay couple be caned after pleading guilty in sharia court - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) |
Hate groups. Klu klux Klan. Bigots.
You guys are hilarious when you label or compare a group like the ACL like that. I think you should also look up the definition of bigotry. Dr dre, I was referring specifically to the MEL example from a couple of days back as it was the same day as Joyce getting pied in PER. However there are multiple recent thr acts against other establishments that dared to host people who had a differing view of the SSM debate. Let's not forget the fire bombing of the ACL HQ by a nutter who had previously made threats against them. Initially dismissed as not being a targeted attack it was shown to actually be one. But hey, bigotry and all that. |
I say good on you Alan:D:D:D:D. You are a brave man. Clearly many who work for Qantas have issues with the CEO being openly gay. Many it seem will even hide their homophobia behind certain focus groups.
You are a great person, hopefully one day the dinasours in society will accept diversity. |
Yes, it did escalate very quickly.
What started off as a little bit of fun and banter has now degraded into a lifestyle argument that has no place on PPRuNe. |
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