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p.j.m 9th May 2017 11:40


Originally Posted by Ida down (Post 9765418)
Obviously, some elderly staffer, did not appreciate the ring.

he was probably offloaded by some over zealous security guards due to overbooking.

cattletruck 9th May 2017 12:02

Publicity stunt, new LH route announcements, a spare change of clothes.

Modern clowns wear suits these days.

AerialPerspective 9th May 2017 12:16


Originally Posted by Another Number (Post 9765450)
So throwing a harmless lemon meringue pie is a heinous assault, but throwing the book is warranted?

He's lucky he didn't cop a shoe!*







*Probably wouldn't need to duck to avoid it, though...

On a technical note yes. In fact standing over someone and yelling while not allowing them to escape is considered assault, albeit a low grade. Under the law, a person's body is inviolate so it is assault.
Reminds me of a story told by Billy Connolly, while doing a show in Brisbane an old bloke stepped up on the stage and called him a "filthmonger" (to which Connolly replied "Aye, that's a pretty accurate description") then took a swing at him.
Connolly of course remarked that he wasn't hurt, as the guy made a common mistake of thinking his chin went all the way to the end of his beard. LOL
Not wanting to highlight what you have re Joyce's stature but it does beg the question whether this guy would have been so quick to do this if it was Dixon or some other fairly tall person with a bit of mongrel about them... probably not I suspect.

V-Jet 9th May 2017 21:21

Appreciative staff should look after any legal bills for services rendered regardless of the reason. Despite the public response, I doubt a vindictive and nasty little man will take this well. Hitler hung his assailants up with piano wire and purged something like 7000 others. Come to think of it, excluding piano wire, that's a not an unfamiliar figure!

Berealgetreal 10th May 2017 00:16

I'm with Aerial Perspective.

One thing is to say "I'd like to knock his block off" and another is to, without provocation or even worse from behind actually hit a person or jam a pie in their face.

Turns out it was about the marriage equality issue. Makes conservatives look like fools. Playing right into the hands of the Lefties.

That's just my own standard.

Ret Sabala 10th May 2017 00:52

Just some religious zealot who resents Alan Joyce's right to express his view on same sex marriage. There should be more people like Mr Joyce in society who are not scared to come out and be what they are-BTW- it is not illegal to be gay, but it is illegal to throw a pie in some ones face. When will the self indulgent religious right grow up.
Thank goodness we did not have a plebiscite on gay marriage.

RENURPP 10th May 2017 02:46


There should be more people like Mr Joyce
Not in my opinion there shouldn't.
Self serving r sole.
Had a close call with prostate cancer, makes prostate cancer an issue through Qantas. I don't recall any input until then.
He's openly a homosexual, so pushes the homosexual cause through Qantas avenues including staff wearing insignia.
I'm surprised there's not some form of dental cause doing the rounds.


A pie in the face? Who really cares.

p.j.m 10th May 2017 06:40

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...10-gw1hud.html


Mr Overheu told radio station 6PR he objected to Qantas' support for marriage equality, which he labelled "corporate bullying aimed at social engineering"
here here Mr Overheu, time to send this leprechaun back where he came from.

dr dre 10th May 2017 07:00


Originally Posted by p.j.m (Post 9766323)
'We won't be suppressed': Qantas boss Alan Joyce 'reinvigorated' by pie to the face

Quote:
Mr Overheu told radio station 6PR he objected to Qantas' support for marriage equality, which he labelled "corporate bullying aimed at social engineering".

If you don't agree with the causes or positions that a particular company promotes then don't buy products or use services from that particular company. Don't commit assault.

Slippery_Pete 10th May 2017 08:48

I absolute commend Joyce for standing strong in what he believes.

Bullying and assault has absolutely no place in this world, regardless of what you think on the issue or Joyce as a CEO.

IMHO, the only mistake he's made is to pursue civil charges. If he really wants to champion the cause of acceptance, he'd have done well to let the police sort it out and not got involved.

Nothing would have been more dignified than indicating he wasn't going to pursue a civil case, because he'd much rather focus his efforts on positives of the cause.

A lost opportunity to take the moral high ground, methinks.

tartare 10th May 2017 10:16


Originally Posted by RENURPP (Post 9766208)
Not in my opinion there shouldn't.
Self serving r sole.
Had a close call with prostate cancer, makes prostate cancer an issue through Qantas. I don't recall any input until then.
He's openly a homosexual, so pushes the homosexual cause through Qantas avenues including staff wearing insignia.
I'm surprised there's not some form of dental cause doing the rounds.


A pie in the face? Who really cares.

Good on you mate.
Ever considered that if it weren't for pooftas, you probably wouldn't have a computer to type on.
And hey, as a result you might have even been speaking German now - or Japanese...

psycho joe 10th May 2017 10:35

I'm a bit surprised that Waleed hasn't started some sort of [email protected] campaign.

#illridewithyou

V-Jet 10th May 2017 10:52


.Good on you mate.
Ever considered that if it weren't for pooftas, you probably wouldn't have a computer to type on.
And hey, as a result you might have even been speaking German now - or Japanese...
Question for you - how did those pooftas get here in the first place? I put it to you that there were ALL members of the sinful sexes involved. And for that, I wholeheartedly blame the parents for the whole Jq/RedQ/Qf fiasco. Turing was a genius, but he certainly didn't invent Foxconn or discover Shenzhen and tragically no one until much later understood his genius. Jobs/Gates etc were not of the 'boy/TG/L/Beast/Priest' variety and they DID put keyboards in everyone's hands, so that's probably drawing too long a bow.

The guy is a d**k, but far more so because he didn't pie the tool when he was conducting grandstanding operations during his epiphany 'let's shut the place down' speech.

Joyce is a vindictive jealous little man who harbours grudges and doesn't like looking like a fool - which is why he sacks anyone who does disagree with him. A mate told me it was on CNN in the US. He won't take this lying down and it will have shaken him.

tartare 10th May 2017 11:07

Lovely.
Glad to see some true intellectuals coming out of the woodwork... :rolleyes:

Cravenmorehead 10th May 2017 11:28

Good on you Tartare,Ret and Slippery Pete. RENURPP did you know that Australias greatest ever Olympian and someone who you probably cheered wildly in 2000 is openly gay. Scary 'eh, wow.........
Ian Thorpe if you are having another senior moment.

GA Driver 10th May 2017 11:31

I couldn't give a rats hetro/homonsexual or whatever. It's 2017 and you like what you like. I don't think many people REALLY care, let's move on....
BUT I can't image a 'hetro' campaign pushed by an international airline, being particularly kosher with locals or very well regarded by anyone really. So why bother pushing at all is my question?

It's the wrong industry if your homophobic.

V-Jet 10th May 2017 11:34


Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead (Post 9766532)
Good on you Tartare,Ret and Slippery Pete. RENURPP did you know that Australias greatest ever Olympian and someone who you probably cheered wildly in 2000 is openly gay. Scary 'eh, wow.........
Ian Thorpe if you are having another senior moment.

He should have been openly gay from the beginning, because those who knew him knew but didn't care. Take it from me, he was 'never' straight. But let's put the financial record straight, Thorpe has lost millions for himself, Joyce has made himself millions (likely 100 of them) while losing B (yes that's a B) billions for everyone else.

cattletruck 10th May 2017 12:05

Must be Eurovision time again with all them princesses grandstanding around.

Keg 10th May 2017 13:09


Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete (Post 9766412)

Bullying and assault has absolutely no place in this world, regardless of what you think on the issue or Joyce as a CEO.

Awesome. I look forward to hearing your thoughts about the activists that prevented about half the crowd from attending an ACL meeting in MEL yesterday. The activists then blocked those who had managed to get in from leaving.

Given that was a group of people (rather than a lone individual), and they've refused to apologise, and their actions are consistent with bullying from other rainbow activist groups in recent times, I'm wondering why there's been such little condemnation of them?


Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete (Post 9766412)

IMHO, the only mistake he's made is to pursue civil charges. If he really wants to champion the cause of acceptance, he'd have done well to let the police sort it out and not got involved.

Not his choice to make. It's actually the call of the police as to whether someone gets charged though. Given his profile though that would no doubt carry some weight in the copper's minds as to how to proceed.

A lost opportunity to take the moral high ground, methinks.[/QUOTE]

Keg 10th May 2017 13:14


Originally Posted by Ret Sabala (Post 9766155)
Just some religious zealot who resents Alan Joyce's right to express his view on same sex marriage. There should be more people like Mr Joyce in society who are not scared to come out and be what they are-BTW- it is not illegal to be gay, but it is illegal to throw a pie in some ones face. When will the self indulgent religious right grow up.
Thank goodness we did not have a plebiscite on gay marriage.

Like the threats of violence endured by people trying to attend the ACL meeting? It's not illegal to be Christian but it is illegal to threaten violence against them. Sadly the coppers are more likely to take action against the lone Nutter than the groups that threaten violence against those attending the ACL meeting.

le Pingouin 10th May 2017 14:06

Keg, why are you defending what is basically a hate group?

B772 10th May 2017 17:22

le pingouin

I am confused. Who is Keg defending ?

keepitrealok 10th May 2017 17:24


Not his choice to make. It's actually the call of the police as to whether someone gets charged though. .
"Generally the police will lay charges dependant on the wishes of the victim ....." - Government of WA.

The Police have charged Overheu with providing false details.

Joyce has said he intends to press assault charges. Not the Police - but Joyce.

dr dre 10th May 2017 17:26


Originally Posted by Keg (Post 9766607)
Like the threats of violence endured by people trying to attend the ACL meeting? It's not illegal to be Christian but it is illegal to threaten violence against them. Sadly the coppers are more likely to take action against the lone Nutter than the groups that threaten violence against those attending the ACL meeting.

I assume you're referring to what happened at the Arrow hotel in Melbourne yesterday? After reading the only two articles published about that (which came from News Ltd sources so reading through the obvious bias) the difference was that the protestors at the ACL meeting were rallying outside the meeting with the police in attendance to ensure safe passage for people going in and out of the hotel. There were no reports of arrests so I assume that the police were satisfied the behaviour of the protestors didn't constitute a crime.

The supposed "threats" were comments on the hotel's social media page from people saying they would boycott the hotel for hosting this event. That is a legitimate form of protest. Not what the pie thrower did, when he committed a clear public act of assault.

IsDon 10th May 2017 18:41


Originally Posted by le Pingouin (Post 9766644)
Keg, why are you defending what is basically a hate group?

Calling the Australian Christian Lobby a "hate group" is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Not that I have any skin in that game as an atheist.

Your statement does, however, highlight how the LBGTIQABCDEFG brigade just live to preach tolerance of their opinions on one hand, while demonstrating a complete lack of it themselves for anyone with a differing view.

It's pathetic really.

psycho joe 10th May 2017 20:37

All this twisted logic reminds me of a time in history when people in brown shirts stood out the front of Jewish businesses in a legitimate form of protest. If anything history shows that it went well for them, in fact if blocking access and threats of death don't work against these hate groups then perhaps the final solution might be ghettos and camps. Just an idea.

neila83 10th May 2017 21:05


Originally Posted by IsDon (Post 9766914)
Calling the Australian Christian Lobby a "hate group" is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Not that I have any skin in that game as an atheist.

Your statement does, however, highlight how the LBGTIQABCDEFG brigade just live to preach tolerance of their opinions on one hand, while demonstrating a complete lack of it themselves for anyone with a differing view.

It's pathetic really.

Ahh that old chestnut. Trying to draw equivalence between christian groups who actually campaign against equal rights for a particular group of people, who stigmatise them, who publically call them evil/sinful, and gay rights groups who are merely asking for tolerance of their right to be who they are is quite ridiculous. It's a common tactic in this debate and really not as clever as you no doubt think it is. It fails any test of logic.

If I call the klu-klux-klan a hate group am I being intolerant? I'm afraid not all opinions are worth of tolerance. And bigotry against an entire group of people for perfectly natural behaviour, for merely loving other people, I'm afraid that doesn't qualify as something we have to be tolerant of. When people try to deny others, who are harming no-one, rights, for religious reasons, well I'm afraid we're secular mate, keep your god out of our lives. People can believe what someone high on hallucenagenic cactii in the bronze age wrote if they want, but I'm afraid it is irrelevant to 21st century society.

Playing the religion card is so tiresome. I feel the same way about christians speaking special protections as I do about any other relgious group who want to bring pre-enlightenment nonsense into society. I imagine you don't think much of sharia law? So why is christian nonsense any different? Maybe I should claim special protections on the basis of my belief in Zeus? The ancient greeks were of course pretty flexible about sexuality, ahead of their time in so many ways.

Sorry guys, the world is leaving you behind, your views will soon be as outdated as a racists. So you better ask yourselves why this is different to you, and frankly, why do you care? I guess it does give you some hilarious jokes. 'bent little leprechaun'. oh my sides. The wit!

NumptyAussie 10th May 2017 21:06

Well, that escalated quickly...

Tuck Mach 10th May 2017 21:30

Using a company and its resource base when you are one of the most over compensated airline executives is a little crass.

Perhaps instead of spending time and money, which will likely be the shareholder's also, perhaps Alan could be magnanimous and demonstrate he is the 'bigger' man and help these two unfortunate people.

Indonesian prosecutors demand gay couple be caned after pleading guilty in sharia court - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Keg 10th May 2017 21:54

Hate groups. Klu klux Klan. Bigots.

You guys are hilarious when you label or compare a group like the ACL like that. I think you should also look up the definition of bigotry.

Dr dre, I was referring specifically to the MEL example from a couple of days back as it was the same day as Joyce getting pied in PER. However there are multiple recent thr acts against other establishments that dared to host people who had a differing view of the SSM debate.

Let's not forget the fire bombing of the ACL HQ by a nutter who had previously made threats against them. Initially dismissed as not being a targeted attack it was shown to actually be one. But hey, bigotry and all that.

WagnerPrincipal 10th May 2017 21:57

I say good on you Alan:D:D:D:D. You are a brave man. Clearly many who work for Qantas have issues with the CEO being openly gay. Many it seem will even hide their homophobia behind certain focus groups.
You are a great person, hopefully one day the dinasours in society will accept diversity.

tail wheel 10th May 2017 22:13

Yes, it did escalate very quickly.

What started off as a little bit of fun and banter has now degraded into a lifestyle argument that has no place on PPRuNe.


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