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mickjoebill 17th Mar 2017 12:23


The focus needs to be on how the dog got loose and why it was so spooked to ignore it's handler.
It has been described a puppy undergoing training.

Mickjoebill

cooperplace 17th Mar 2017 12:29

I'm just a crappy PPL and dog owner, so I know nothing, but why couldn't they have ignored the dog? Any sensible pooch will run a mile from a runway as soon as a jet aircraft approaches. They did not need to shoot this dog! As an Australian, the only positive I can draw from this is the knowledge that our public servants don't have a monopoly on dim-witted over-reactions, much as they like to give that impression.

Chris2303 17th Mar 2017 13:36


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 9709329)
Risks to what exactly?

Aircraft perhaps?

Dog in an engine?

clark y 17th Mar 2017 14:05

At the end of the day it's a dog. If it was another sort of animal would there be this reaction?

IsDon 17th Mar 2017 15:19

Must be a slow news day.

I remember a clever fox (I know, a tautology) "terrorising" Sydney airport over a week or so a few years back. We spotted him one night taxiing out to 16R near the fire station.

He consistently demonstrated he was a lot smarter than those that tried to catch/shoot him. As far as I know they never did.

It never made the news in Oz.

I guess if it was Auckland they would have closed the airport until the critter was dealt with.

Really guys, one dog? How many other critters hang around airports that we either tolerate or don't even know about. Is one scared dog more dangerous than that?

Virtually There 17th Mar 2017 17:57

$100,000 worth of training and they couldn't call the dog to heel. I know who I'd be sacking.

DeltaT 17th Mar 2017 21:22

That's a very good point!

Rabbitwear 17th Mar 2017 22:14

It's a real joke , there's always dogs on the Aerodrome in Pakistan , even seen them in Bali , no problems over there .

The Baron 17th Mar 2017 23:35

Just a shame it wasn't a sniffer cat.....

Checklist Charlie 18th Mar 2017 00:04

And these are the very people who see themselves as "heros" for protecting our borders.

CC

ZFT 18th Mar 2017 00:18

Funny old world. 42 women and kids get machine gunned by an Apache but a dog gets all the comments!

Cralis 18th Mar 2017 10:44


Originally Posted by ZFT (Post 9710179)
Funny old world. 42 women and kids get machine gunned by an Apache but a dog gets all the comments!

I'm not seeing the link. What's that got to do with this thread about a dog getting shot? I thought this was an aviation thread based on news on Australia, NZ and the Pacific?

parabellum 19th Mar 2017 01:06

They had three hours, between escape and fatal shot, to get a whole variety of tranquiliser darts and rifles to the airport and NZ is primarily a farming country.

blow.n.gasket 19th Mar 2017 01:34

IsDon :wrote


I remember a clever fox (I know, a tautology) "terrorising" Sydney airport over a week or so a few years back. We spotted him one night taxiing out to 16R near the fire station.
Reminds me of a joke,

"What's the difference between a dog and a fox?"

"Well for me , 6 beers usually!"

Band a Lot 19th Mar 2017 03:40


Originally Posted by Chris2303 (Post 9709495)
Aircraft perhaps?

Dog in an engine?

Intelligence at its best - I think you will find the aircraft and it's engine have little or no risk of the said dog.

The engine would require inspection "IF" dog was ingested, but not likely to suffer any major damage on a landing or take off roll. If it did, it is insured and replaceable under that insurance.

Unless the aircraft was a Piper Cub or other fabric aircraft no airframe damage of any note would happen (minor dent maybe).

You will in fact find all the risk is to the dog (that is running for its life) trying to run away from things - not into them.

I assume the powers to be issued a NOTAM in the 4 hours they had before shooting the dog! The dog must have been important information for aviators to know about if this animal had to be shot, so the correct method is to issue a NOTAM not an order to destroy.

Octane 19th Mar 2017 04:30

A tragic event. My thoughts to the dog handler... :-(

IsDon 19th Mar 2017 05:47


Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket (Post 9711169)
IsDon :wrote



Reminds me of a joke,

"What's the difference between a dog and a fox?"

"Well for me , 6 beers usually!"

Classic.

On a related story. I was doing night circuits in a draggy at East Sale one evening and we thought we hit a rabbit on landing. Thought I'd create some light entertainment so wrote up the aircraft for an inspection following "a mid hare collision". Even the CO thought that was funny.

Seriously, the bloody things were all over the airfield. They were usually smart enough to keep out of the way. You know, look to the right, look to the left, look to the right again. And that's the case on just about every airfield I've ever landed at. If we worried about hitting wildlife then we'd never go flying.

This is just a sad reflection on an arse covering culture that is is destroying life as we know it in so called developed nations. They wouldn't close an airfield or shoot every animal on an airfield, but they will if that animal was on the airfield in the first place because of their own incompetence. That might mean they might be held accountable if pooch did decide to run in front of an aircraft. That's why the huge overreaction occurred.

blow.n.gasket 19th Mar 2017 06:10

IsDon, that's what happens when you take a left turn at albuquerque.

IsDon 19th Mar 2017 06:36


Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket (Post 9711278)
IsDon, that's what happens when you take a left turn at albuquerque.

There's a blast from the past. Another BB fan.:ok:

IsDon 19th Mar 2017 06:38

I wonder how long it will be until we see some nitwit with a smart phone out on the runway looking for Pokemon?

I fully endorse open season on mindless morons.


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