This will keep us safe
 

https://infrastructure.gov.au/securi...hancements.pdf

Stage 2 of the changes requires face-to-face verification of photos and additional documentation requirements :ugh:

Kaz

Nanny state and then some :mad::*

I am seriously over this place.....

I need to find a few like minded folks and we should buy an island. Norfolk maybe?

It's nothing about security, it's about feeding the security empire.

They're just a bunch of parasites sponging off the aviation industry. You know, a bit like CASA bureaucrats.

I just hope they don't kill the host.

Sooooo.........we all head out to Merimbula for the face to face?

I hate to say this, but Australia has become a pissant country, or maybe it is just our government/politicians and bureaucrats.

To paraphrase JPMcEnroe, 'They cannot be serious'.!! :ugh:
So am I reading it right..? You get your ID signed off by someone authorised to do so, then someone else has to authorise the authoriser....hmmm where have I heard that before..? Oh yeah, a qualified and authorised DAME signs you off as fit to fly, then someone else has to authorise them!! :ugh:


The existing/previous system was a complete WOFTAM.


You want to improve the system..? SCRAP IT altogether. It serves no purpose other than to line the pockets of the people in the little empire built around it (well said IsDon), and allows politicians to be 'seen to be doing something' about aviation security.


At the very least it should be valid for 10yrs like a passport. Having to renew it every 2 years is just ridiculous. I'm over it.

Did you guys not read the title of the document?
I'll copy it hear to help you out:
These changes only apply if you have recently had surgery to 'enhance ' your body.
It mainly only effects cabin crew but I have noticed the odd pilot become suddenly more enhanced after a holiday in Thailand. For most of us it's business as usual.

Basically like CASA, ATSB, Air Services Australia this bunch are getting away with murder. Then again so are the politicians. This place desperately needs a Trump like swamp drain. A no nonsense person that drills down into the nitty gritty and calls "bull****" without meetings and enquiries. A leader.

Did you guys see the uproar in the media when Centrelink started tapping people on the shoulder regarding taxpayers money they weren't entitled to. We need a big adjustment here. Things are back to front.

I read the rest of the article, too. But I don't think you did if you are serious.

From my reading of the 2011 ANAO report (which DOIRD say their report is based on), I don't see where ANAO said that 'face to face verification of applicants' was required, it wasn't mentioned in any of their 3 recommendations.

I was more struck by the ANAO finding that "AusCheck processed 97 per cent of its background checking activity within one day and 99 per cent was completed in five business days or less", which only confirms my long held belief that the ASIC is pure 'security theatrics' because it is difficult to do a proper 'security' job in 5 business days, and impossible in 1 day.

A day? Takes at least a month to get it back. More O2 thieves in our industry, running around in offices wasting time and money.

The 'end-to-end' processing time, ie. "the complete time taken from submission to completion" in that 2010/2011 audit was roughly,
25% done within 1 week, 25% took between 1 and 2 weeks and 50% took more than 2 weeks.

The Centrelink fiasco was just a little bit more complex that you make it out - but don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.

The Centrelink fiasco was initiated when a computerised program was introduced to scan all money transfers to welfare-recipients bank accounts, and penalise them accordingly if bank payments were found that didn't jell with the recipients stated income.

Unfortunately, said program could not identify the source, nor the reasons, for said payments - so Joe Blow, the welfare recipient was immediately classified as having unstated income, if he'd paid a bill for a friend or family member, and that friend or family member re-imbursed them.

This re-imbursement was immediately classed as "income" in the Centrelink computer program - and no Centrelink employee was authorised to alter the computer decision, even after a believeable explanation was produced by the welfare recipient.

The Centrelink stuff-up penalised tens of thousands of innocent pensioners, genuine welfare recipients, and genuine disability pensioners - whilst allowing the deadbeat drug dealers on Centrelink benefits, to continue with their major cash-income sidelines.

Oh of course, how dare the government implement any system that recovers tax payers money. My heart bleeds. If you've done nothing wrong you won't have anything to worry about.

Tax payers are getting fed up!

Unfortunately, a number of those who did no wrong, including very elderly pensioners and single mums, have been left without even the basics to live on for weeks on end.

"Be real"? What a singularly inappropriate name. Bet you'd moan if they canned the leaching that is negative gearing.

Getrealbereal

You are so far from accurate regarding the Centrelink issue it's not funny.
I'm one of them accused for "ripping off the tax payer" from an Ausstudy payment in 2012 (yep that's right 5 years ago) where I worked part time for 9 months of the year whilst studying then returned to a highly paid previous career for the remaining 3 months once finished studying and without further payment of the study allowance.

These drongos have averaged my income for the year and said I have earned undeclared income whilst receiving the payment and that I now have to pay back all of what I received and the "debt" has been handed over to the collection agency because Centrelink didn't have my current address (why should they? Haven't dealt with them in 5 years) and neglected to call me.

So much for if you have done nothing you have nothing to worry about right?
To add as well this was the only time I've dealt with them.

If they've sold the debt to a debt collector, this is an indication that centrelink see no legal avenue to get the debt off you. To salvage something they sell the debt for maybe 10% to a collection agency.

What did Darryl Kerrigan say? "Tell em their dreamin'"

Darryl Kerrigan in fact said: "Tell 'em they're dreamin'".


Tell the debt collectors: Prove the debt (and suffer in your jocks...).

The recovery of non-entitled monies is a laudable goal, the problem is that Centrelink stuffed-up their data-matching process.

Selling the debt to a collector is wonderful from Centrelinks' perspective, ie
they get some money,
they don't need an office full of staff to do the recoveries,
and any disputes are now a problem for the collector.