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engine out

25th Oct 2016 08:52

Qantas MOU

I see Qantas has now opened MOU positions to Jetstar pilots that are covered by it. Though as they are five FO slots on the 737, one wonders how many pilots covered by the MOU would be interested, surely most would have commands by now.

mase	25th Oct 2016 11:06

Seniority number down to just past 120 in Jetstar - all Captains. About two thirds Wide Body, the rest Narrow Body Captains make up the split on types.

busdriver007

25th Oct 2016 19:51

A little history that you can learn from. Original Business Case to the Board was for 6 wide-bodies for Jetstar and the reason Bruce Buchanan was sacked. He raised the point that he "can't make the model work" beyond that number. Revenue in the Qantas Group was plateaued for the last 8 years with 50% more aircraft and the reason Jetstar is reported as a Group and not in segments.

Currently a proposal is be examined to hand over some of the the B787-8s(maintenance free(paid for) for the first 4 years) so suggest the older ones. Revenue comes from full service so emphasis will likely be on that from now on. New destinations being examined and none are low-cost.

Don't think any or many will take up these opportunities but the question must be what happens in the narrow body domestic space in the coming years. Personal view is the Airbus 319/320/321 is the best fit just in what colour and maybe we will see direct entry B737 in the short term.

Overspeed1

1st Dec 2019 04:44

Anyone got any more recent info on this? How many people on the JQ list still eligible to go to QF?

Lookleft

2nd Dec 2019 00:40

Plenty, and a lot of them will take up the offer if the lifestyle it offers works for them.

cloudsurfng

2nd Dec 2019 02:40

There’s one 737 FO in BNE. Two have just started training for 330 FO PER. There were 2 that applied but didn’t get through the recruitment process.

Expect there will be more when command comes up. First number probably 4-5 years away for east coast.

Overspeed1

2nd Dec 2019 05:24

Has anyone got the actual number of pilots on the JQ list that are eligible?

Ragnor

2nd Dec 2019 06:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overspeed1 (Post 10630707)

Has anyone got the actual number of pilots on the JQ list that are eligible?

124, they would be mad not to take it up I reckon. If could I would!

Blueskymine

3rd Dec 2019 04:33

The floodgates will open when the MOU is eligible for 787 FO slots under the MOU.

Right now they pay for the TR and don’t start the training wage until the TR is completed.

If they already have a TR, they will be paid from day 1 and just need to do the QF conversion. Which should be fairly similar considering JQ trained the QF 787 pilots. Initially anyway.

Anyway best of luck either way.

Willie Nelson

4th Dec 2019 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10630730)

124, they would be mad not to take it up I reckon. If could I would!

You do realise that a large portion of them already have significant command experience on the 787 with Jetstar?

Blueskymine

4th Dec 2019 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Nelson (Post 10632166)

You do realise that a large portion of them already have significant command experience on the 787 with Jetstar?

Yep,

but those 787s are rumoured to be earmarked for mainline with the NEOs coming and heavy checks due. So unless those senior guys with heaps of command time want to bounce up and down the east coast all day, I’d say they’ll be sold on the idea of mainline and a hat.

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