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RAD_ALT_ALIVE 9th Oct 2016 06:52

SingCargo Pod/Wing/Tailstrike at YMML today?
 
This is the only info that I've seen about this.

Anyone able to share the result of the runway inspection, i.e. did it happen, or was there no evidence of it?

https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/3284...tar-mac/#page1

LeeJoyce 9th Oct 2016 07:15

I missed it

But I heard about it

Yes the runway was closed for an inspection

And the plane didn't return


I also heard there were empty baggage containers doing about 80km/h on rwy34 with car 2 and 3 in hot pursuit

logansi 9th Oct 2016 08:10

here was the container with car 2 trapping it against the fence on operations rd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuTWGuQUsAAHf9g.jpg

Also the last aircraft do depart prior to the closure was SIA238, a pax flight not a cargo flight

itsnotthatbloodyhard 9th Oct 2016 11:27

ATC advised at one point that there was debris on the runway. (But who knows, it could've been blown there from a nearby suburb.)

whiteb 9th Oct 2016 13:09

That was some hell of a wind.

did you see the QF plane do some serious crabbing at YMML ?

(Stolen from Facebook)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/542515...posted-public/

Turnleft080 9th Oct 2016 13:45

If this was a tail strike are you not suppose to depressurise the a/c and plan to land at the nearest suitable airport.

aviator's_anonymous 9th Oct 2016 18:16

Singapore Airlines tail strike suspected as Melbourne airport lashed
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...92cc8ee4ed11d1

RAD_ALT_ALIVE 9th Oct 2016 20:40

Thanks very much folks.

AA - I'd love to read the article, but the Australian's website tells me I have to be a subscriber.

itsnotthatbloodyhard 9th Oct 2016 21:38


Originally Posted by whiteb (Post 9535130)
That was some hell of a wind.

did you see the QF plane do some serious crabbing at YMML ?

(Stolen from Facebook)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/542515...posted-public/

That wasn't from yesterday, although for some reason it keeps getting posted as if it was.

spinex 10th Oct 2016 00:55

I managed to persuade the Australian to let me read it sans subscription - just google the story and follow that link instead of clicking on the one above. I think you get 1 or 2 freebies a day from them. Not much more than already disclosed, except that ATC saw what they thought was a tailstrike and notified the aircraft. Pilots were unaware and decided to press on to Singapore, being of the opinion that the aircraft sensors would have picked up if the strike had occurred. Runway closed to check for damage/debris but none found.

1a sound asleep 10th Oct 2016 01:50

SQ now admits skid made contact. A/c now in SIN for repair

mates rates 10th Oct 2016 05:35

tick tock tick tock !!!

BuzzBox 10th Oct 2016 06:33


SQ now admits skid made contact. A/c now in SIN for repair
Where did you read that?

1a sound asleep 10th Oct 2016 06:54


Quote:
SQ now admits skid made contact. A/c now in SIN for repair
Where did you read that?

Response from SQ on facebook page .....we understand that the inspections confirmed there had been contact with the tail skid system, but there was no contact with the fuselage. The affected component is being repaired and the aircraft is expected to return to service by tomorrow. Thank you".

https://www.facebook.com/AIRLINESECRETS/

blow.n.gasket 10th Oct 2016 07:04

Repaired tailskid.

Would that be with high speed tape or staples?:hmm:

Judd 10th Oct 2016 07:41

Sir Humphrey of "Yes Minister' would have praised the Singapore 777 captain with "A courageous decision, Captain." :sad:

Metro man 10th Oct 2016 23:33

The tailskid obviously did its job in protecting the airframe if it can be returned to service so quickly.

millionaire 11th Oct 2016 05:20

Boeing 777 QRH states as follows.
Tail strike message ( Eicas message ) is not shown :
Continue to operate normally. Fuselage contact without activation of the tail strike message indicates structural integrity is intact. The aircraft can pressurize normally.

They continued in accordance with laid down procedures, but of course the tail strike should not have happened in the first place... It was not a courageous decision..but an expected decision... maybe they could have explained in clearer terms to atc so as not to be perceived as reckless...

CurtainTwitcher 11th Oct 2016 06:28


but of course the tail strike should not have happened in the first place...
Yes but in the real world things do happen for any one of a thousand different reasons: incorrect weight & balance, airspeed stagnation, windshear, turbulence, and shock horror even "pilot error", the list goes on.

Lets wait for the report. Nobody goes to work to have an incident or accident, perhaps we all may be able to learn something when the facts are eventually revealed.

MACH082 11th Oct 2016 08:38

I tell you what. If ATC says there was sparks and smoke and the tail contacted the runway, I don't care what QRH says, I'd be returning to land weather permitting at the departure point or a suitable alternate with engineering support.

The safest thing to do is to get it on the ground and inspected. If you continued and something was amiss constituting some form or emergency, the first question the investigators and company will ask, is why didn't you return to land....

Coupled with the recent wing BBQ and not punching the slides out I wonder what is going on. Yes both events went their way, but what if it didn't?


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