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Originally Posted by Trent 972
(Post 9546960)
Just put a thermometer in face (not bum) and it says 37.6 C.
It seems I'm more than 10 degrees above the jacket cut-off temp. Coats off... 40 deg everyday out in the GAFA with the Geologists on board. Worked a treat till the hirachy found out, we had swapped the normal outfit, and outfitted ourselves out of the Mt.Isa army disposal store. Should be more of it. They still fly the same. |
And the 5 guys above were just a QF DC3 crew :)
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Originally Posted by MACH082
(Post 9547956)
And the 5 guys above were just a QF DC3 crew :)
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Originally Posted by framer
(Post 9533758)
I didn't get that from his post Slezy, all I got was that he doesn't like any deviation from heterosexual white males.
As a heterosexual white male I find that offensive :) |
The gold braid on the new uniforms seems have been downsized, compared to past uniforms.
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With Gold at the moment at $1270 US an ounce they had to down size the braids. :p
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Well, I don't hear you're having THIS issue with your new uniforms:
http://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/n...html?ana=yahoo |
Catch Me If You Can scheduled to air immediately after the latest episode of Ready for Takeoff tonight.
Is someone taking the mickey? |
Believe me, in my opinion this new uniform stinks. This is not going to make this company win bigly. Time to support winners, not losers.
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Where can I get one of those hats? I like it.....I am just a bush pilot and like to crack a joke to my clients ocassionally.....:D
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You handsome high-flyer you! :)
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Where can I get one of those hats? I like it.....I am just a bush pilot and like to crack a joke to my clients ocassionally..... |
If it doesn't fit I'm happy for you to have mine!!!
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A multi page guide to wear a uniform? Most pilots, military or otherwise have worn uniforms for a long time. Other pilot uniforms were simply introduced and people exchanged the existing for the new one..
The modern Qantas with buildings full of HR/IR types all struggling for relevance concoct and try to introduce a control over pilots. A performance management tool? Maybe the Chief is being persuaded what is needed is KPI's for pilots and this is the beginning. Ironically HR/IR have had far more success with circumventing career paths with the whole JQ, Network,Cobham,Jetconnect (am I missing one?). When Todd Samson doesn't wear a four day growth and a grotty T-Shirt as a board member, and the desk jockeys in 'the street' have to wear a jacket and tie on leaving the hallowed offices of irrelevance, then one suspects the pilots will too.. |
I like Todd Sampson, he's a cool funny guy etc. BUT, his expertise is in marketing and PR and I'm sure he's great at it but what exactly would he bring to the QF non executive sphere other than that? We saw the dire consequences of putting as CEO someone who only knows PR with the fallout of Dreamworld, Ardent Leisure and Deborah Thomas.
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Yes Jeps,
You are correct, he (Todd) brings marketing and branding, that is all. This whole uniform exercise reeks of spin. How many likes on fool book does it get? Not whether the uniform is functional.. Geez a certain airline CEO faced with a 'clanker' of a uniform, gave the staff the budget a,timeline and a vote..He stipulated when voted on, no more complaints... The uniform was designed and on budget. The crew wore it, without exception proud to be in it. The CEO also undertook to wear the existing uniform until the new one was rolled out...Can't see the hallowed genius of QCA wearing it at Qantas. Candidly giving people ownership is much easier and far more productive to a company than controlling and IR derived policies, but then the HR/IR types would have to find something else with which to justify their existence... |
THE SADDEST THING , ABOUT THE NEW UNIFORM IS ,,,, WHEN I WORKED FOR QANTAS IN THE 1960s -- THE KANGEROO HAD WINGS ---- NOW THEY ARE MISSING ---- WHAT KEEPS THE PLANES UP NOW------- BUT , NOW YOU CAN ASK FOR ICECREAM-----------
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THE SADDEST THING , ABOUT THE NEW UNIFORM IS ,,,, WHEN I WORKED FOR QANTAS IN THE 1960s -- THE KANGEROO HAD WINGS ---- NOW THEY ARE MISSING ---- WHAT KEEPS THE PLANES UP NOW------- BUT , NOW YOU CAN ASK FOR ICECREAM----------- |
Just done a quick "google" in response to some of the comments I have seen on here and there is something distinctly odd about many of the photos.... the heads seem over-large for the bodies on many of them, cartoon-like.
Someone been playing with the software (or the food) ??? |
I would have thought such counselling sessions would have rated a mention on Qrewroom?
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My hat is dirty already! Urghhh only took a month!
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Having worn the uniform for a while now;
Far more comfortable than I thought Plenty of compliments from staff and travellers White is the new black If they pay me this much, I'll wear anything! I haven't heard of any uniform police around, haven't seen any and don't expect to either. Safe flying peeps |
Perhaps now that SOs no longer need to spend time putting away the captain's charts they can be put to work cleaning hats.
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I smell a Qantas Angel ,
with I smell a rats post. According to a few of the base managers who actually tell it like it is there has been a lot of negative crew reports coming in , (And I was told "a lot ") about serious comfort and safety issues regarding the new uniform now that crew have had multiple sectors to endure this latest exercise in form over function. The managers response , keep 'em coming in! Unless there is an avalanche of reports ,then there can't possibly be anything wrong under the emporors dictum. |
The uniform appearance (except maybe the hat) is fine.
The uniform's practicality is not. My jacket, that is already at the larger end of my normal fitting, is so tight that I can't lift my arms without feeling the jacket will split across the shoulders. It's being replaced with a larger one that will look like I'm wearing a potato sack. Fashionable it won't be! I also have a 10 step hat……after 10 steps it falls off. I had a haircut yesterday….maybe that'll work.:cool: I'm lucky as I'm slim, so the jatz crackers aren't in danger when sitting and a normal fit shirt actually does. (Tried a slim fit but it didn't!) |
It's being replaced with a larger one that will look like I'm wearing a potato sack. Fashionable it won't be! |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 9587111)
Ever thought about doing what every other person who has ill fitting clothes does and go to a tailor?
For company supplied uniforms: if they want us to look good they will supply good uniforms, or have them tailored. If they don't care we can just look crap in the crap they have supplied! ;) |
Und das ist verboten
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Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 9587111)
Ever thought about doing what every other person who has ill fitting clothes does and go to a tailor?
For me I haven't had any issues with the pants or jacket. The shirts I've modified but they're still not ideal. I've avoided the heat issue by walking slowly. Short legs help. :} |
I've also avoided the heat issue, but by not wearing the jacket. Sure, I'll wear it when I feel the temperature allows me too, but if it's too hot outside, it's not leaving home, regardless of what temp it is inside. I've seen managers, checkies, base advisors etc.... no one cares, no one has even mentioned it.
Seriously, they wanted a big hoohaa for the launch, that's done, onto the next thing. I'm hearing the number of FCR mentioning shirt issues is so high they may be forced to resdesign. (The other forum mentions that they actually have a desire to fix the issues which is good) If they'd just asked first, and left the one who wanted to move the wings out of it, the uniform could look good and still be functional....now it will end up costing them even more 🙄 |
Ever thought about doing what every other person who has ill fitting clothes does and go to a tailor? Given that and the fact that the jacket belongs to Qantas, I'm less than enthusiastic about making substantial adjustments to their clothing. I guess this way they can pass the jacket on to someone it will fit and it is considered a cost saving. The massive budget for "looking great" in the new uniform obviously has some limits. As a side note, those I've been dealing with have been very helpful in endeavouring to get a good result. I guess they're limited by their instructions too. |
Sometimes there becomes apparent a "silver lining" when there is a uniform aberration imposed on crew.
Back in the days of Qantas owned by the Government we got a new Minister who was ex railways. He decided that we were only train drivers so he put us in a uniform similar to NSW rail and bus even though we objected. At about the same time as the uniform was issued there was a major and long, fuel strike and were all had to use trains and bus. It was also winter so we had jackets on. It was then we discovered what Mr Minister had done for us. No one would sell us a ticket on a Govt. bus or train because we were obviously staff and were entitled to free transport. No one would come near us because all the gold stripes indicated that we were very important. I even had ticket inspectors walk past me muttering "good morning sir". A friend who was a senior check and lived near Palm Beach ( a long bus trip if you don't know Sydney) was offered a seat at the rear of a bus and other passengers were instructed by the driver not to sit there. So all you QF staff, you never know how this one will work out. there may be good yet although if there ever was an example of Qantas re inventing the wheel, I suspect the white hats are it. At least you don't have skydrol eating holes in the plastic tops like we did on the 707s. Wunwing |
Skydrol hat spritzers at sign on anyone? :}
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Sometimes there becomes apparent a "silver lining" when there is a uniform aberration imposed on crew. Back in the days of Qantas owned by the Government we got a new Minister who was ex railways. He decided that we were only train drivers so he put us in a uniform similar to NSW rail and bus even though we objected. At about the same time as the uniform was issued there was a major and long, fuel strike and were all had to use trains and bus. It was also winter so we had jackets on. It was then we discovered what Mr Minister had done for us. No one would sell us a ticket on a Govt. bus or train because we were obviously staff and were entitled to free transport. No one would come near us because all the gold stripes indicated that we were very important. I even had ticket inspectors walk past me muttering "good morning sir". A friend who was a senior check and lived near Palm Beach ( a long bus trip if you don't know Sydney) was offered a seat at the rear of a bus and other passengers were instructed by the driver not to sit there. So all you QF staff, you never know how this one will work out. there may be good yet although if there ever was an example of Qantas re inventing the wheel, I suspect the white hats are it. At least you don't have skydrol eating holes in the plastic tops like we did on the 707s. Wunwing |
Folks,
Still have my first "white top" from 1967, although "cream" would be more accurate, now. I remember well the "Charlie Jones" uniform, it was also the same as all the Comcar drivers, more than one Commonwealth pollie was "a little surprised" at the reply when they demanded their car of a pilot waiting for the crew bus. Tootle pip!! |
Originally Posted by mrdeux
(Post 9535003)
I tried running over the cap with my Land Rover. It didn't improve it at all. Sadly.
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Originally Posted by framer
(Post 9535164)
It might be because they are made of aluminium. You should try a Hilux.
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Any truth to the rumour that Martin Grant ,the designer of this uniform catastrophe is none other than the nephew of Lesley Grant Qantas CEO of loyalty.
Say it isn't so, please. Would explain a lot ,if true, though!:eek: |
I saw them the other day in the terminal, looked quite stylish in my opinion.
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