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spinex 19th Oct 2016 22:55

Hmm, I'd like to see the actual figures on this "exponential" increase in recreational pilots. Yes they did increase up to about 2010/2011, however since then the numbers have been on the decline going by membership renewals, partially thanks to the overall economic situation, but also I'd suggest thanks to CASA's heavy-handed dealing with the recreational authorities, particularly RA-Aus. A couple of people of my acquaintance said fuggit, all too hard and went fishing instead. The other factor which seems to be ignored is that a proportion of those recreational pilots also hold various CASA licences. Lies, damned lies and statistics the man said....

cogwheel 20th Oct 2016 10:03

Hey Leady, can you post the links to the Senate committee stuff pls? Thanks

Lead Balloon 22nd Oct 2016 01:28

Proof Hansard here, cogwheel: http://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Commit...16_Hansard.pdf

There is no "exponential" increase, spinex. Hence my bolding.

And Mr Carmody seemed not to comprehend the irony in the point he was trying to make. People aren't flocking to recreational aircraft in order to benefit from the wonderful regulatory regime CASA has created for GA. People are flocking to recreational aircraft to avoid as far as practicable anything to do with CASA and its wonderful regulatory regime.

As to his suggestion about prices of ADS-B equipment increasing if Australia waited until after the US mandate comes into force, he's off with the fairies.

BendyFlyer 24th Oct 2016 03:48

This thread will continue ad nauseum, replete with nostalgia for what was, the various conspiracy theories, the florid accounts of bureaucratic machinations political ineptitude and miracle cures, it is time every one had a look at the patient -aviation. To use a well worn quote, "Its the economy stupid" and has been seen the late nineteen eighties.

Did nobody notice the cessation of production of light aircraft by manufacturers all over the world?

Has nobody noticed the emptying out of rural Australia?

Did nobody notice the substitution of technology for communications, mapping, exploration etc that once used aircraft?

Did nobody notice the shift to high levels of urbanisation to the major cities of Australia?

Did nobody notice the impact of international trade and transport via globalisation and the significant competition on international air routes that resulted?

Did nobody notice the very steep rises in the cost of aerospace R&D?

Did nobody notice the demise and consolidation of aircraft manufacturing world wide?

Have we failed to notice we as a Country now have no worthwhile manufacturing industry and now we have lost the automobile side as well?

Has it escaped every one's attention that the millenials and younger generation have crap or casual jobs and hence little disposable income? In other words they are broke.

Has it escaped every one's attention that the younger generation have absolutely no interest in aviation other than to get to that overseas jolly?

Has it escaped everyone's attention that State and Federal governments have spent billions building roads across the country but not a single airport?

We are back to where we were in the 1930's, recreational flying or private transport in an aircraft is the dominion of the rich and the rest will use public transport ala the airline and that is where there is still money to be made but nowhere else in aviation so why would any thinking entrepreneur put a dollar into the industry? they would'nt and they don't.

Thats reality check the facts.


As for CASA they have been rummaging about in the wreckage ever since too stupid to realise it crashed. So CASA cannot fix it because all those factors are outside of its control but they have spent a fortune in taxpayers funds living in the past, avoiding liability for what they did do and generally getting in the road and damaging any individual or business trying to keep what was left going and as long as they continue with the delusion that the golden days are with us still and the facts that they are gone and never coming back nothing will ever change, not in my lifetime or ever really. There are also a whole raft of issues coming down the pipeline for us as a nation and the world generally that will make it all seem insignificant in time.

I will leave the topic and thread with a quote:

"It would be some consolation for the feebleness of our selves and our works if all things should perish as slowly as they come into being; but as it is, increases are of sluggish growth, but the way to ruin is rapid." Lucius Anneaus Seneca, Letters to Lucilius, n. 91

Lead Balloon 24th Oct 2016 04:26

Winston Churchill:

When the situation was manageable it was neglected, and now that it is thoroughly out of hand we apply too late the remedies which then might have effected a cure. There is nothing new in the story. It is as old as the sibylline books. It falls into that long, dismal catalogue of the fruitlessness of experience and the confirmed unteachability of mankind. Want of foresight, unwillingness to act when action would be simple and effective, lack of clear thinking, confusion of counsel until the emergency comes, until self-preservation strikes its jarring gong - these are the features which constitute the endless repetition of history.

Band a Lot 24th Oct 2016 05:00

Hope the new guy is Bob!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_PL3V1c4Y


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