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Arm out the window 26th Aug 2016 10:31

:ok:Great time for all the Sunday morning experts to put their hands up now! Get stuck in, apply for the job and fix everything, perfect opportunity.

wishiwasupthere 26th Aug 2016 11:00


GPO Box 2005
Canberra ACT 2601
There ya go Sunfish/Leads/et al.

Chuck a resume in. By the sounds of it you're more than qualified, just ask you.

Eddie Dean 26th Aug 2016 11:35

Unconfirmed Rumour from Rumour Control is that AVM (Ret) Skidmore is to nominate Sunfish as his preferred replacement.
Press conference rumoured to take place soon or so rumour has it

Fantome 26th Aug 2016 11:41

Asskissing scores with 118% effort, whereas with the good old common or garden approach where STRINE is spoke, it's called arselicking.
For which you lose ten percentage points and have to get by with 108%.

Sunfish 26th Aug 2016 20:22

sorry, I don't have the necessary ass kissing technique.

Sunfish 26th Aug 2016 22:10

As I've said ad nauseam before, any restructuring of CASA needs to go hand in hand with amendment to the Act. The amendments should require CASA to take account of the health of the aviation sect (jobs, investment and growth). The regulation and enforcement sides need to be separated, etc., etc. The FAA rule set, education, non punitive enforcement and all that other stuff on the wish list then naturally falls out of the amendment of the Act.

Such an event requires the direct involvement of Department of PM & C in drafting and oversight, otherwise the intentions will be perverted by the usual culprits.

A new DAS can then go in with a mandate for change and, assisted by a small team from PM&C and perhaps a respected overseas expert, can start the necessary, bloody and stressful (for everyone, especially CASA employees) process of cutting up and reassembling the bits of CASA. This will involve the departure of most of the senior executives, reassessment of what is left, the muzzling of the lawyers, etc., etc.

Of course if a new DAS joins CASA without a mandate from the Minister backed by Cabinet to do this, well, they deserve what they are going to get and it won't be pleasant, as Stalb and Skidmore have found out.

Restructure is not a job for the fainthearted and unless you are a narcissist you are going to find it painful to have to terminate careers, etc. A Fifty something who is what is termed "A hard hearted empath" is what is required in this role.

gerry111 27th Aug 2016 09:36

Perhaps for the next DAS they could try a "Six Sigma" Blackbelt..

alphacentauri 27th Aug 2016 11:08


Perhaps for the next DAS they could try a "Six Sigma" Blackbelt..
It doesn't always come across on forums.....but I hope to god you're being sarcastic??

....cause L6S works/ed so well at Airservices....not:yuk::yuk:

gerry111 27th Aug 2016 11:19

alphacentauri, Rest assured that was very much tongue in cheek! :E

aroa 27th Aug 2016 12:39

Arent you folk aware that in the Fort there is some serious "restructuring" and "renewal programmes" (sic) happening. Some "rewriting" even. !! Whoooeee

Be advised that the "People and Performance" ???? Division has been renamed. Top stuff.
Its now the "People and Culture" division. This should set GA on a new and exciting path. Yes??

In a lab they culture bad germs in a dish.
In (non) Aviation House they culture...well you know what some of them have turned out like so I dont have to elaborate.

Just keep trying to keep flying.

Sunfish 27th Aug 2016 21:38

gerry111:


Perhaps for the next DAS they could try a "Six Sigma" Blackbelt..
Very, very good! :P

But we also need to hit "diversity", "product champions" and all the other jargon.

Lead Balloon 27th Aug 2016 22:18

Relax. It's all in hand.

They've created "new positions for "Stakeholder Engagement Group Manager", "Designated Aviation Medical Examiner (DAME) liaison officer", and "Industry Relations Officer"." They've "established a Stakeholder Engagement Group that provides dedicated stakeholder engagement functions". If you create a position and give it a name that is a perceived solution to a problem, the problem is solved. Even better if you give a whole "group" the name. Those names will be on doors and cards and signature blocks. Job done!

They've "established the Director’s Advisory Panel to provide him with informed, high-level advice". This is a giant leap forward because, presumably, the DAS has been doing the job without the benefit of informed, high-level advice. That would explain quite a lot.

And "key manuals are being revised and updated to ensure there is standardised, current information on rules, processes and how assessments are undertaken." That could take quite a while, because there's probably no one left on the planet who understands the whole of the regulatory Frankenstein that's been let loose.

My favourites:

"CASA will develop a new Service Charter".

"A culture change process is underway within CASA to drive continuous improvement and strengthen commitment to consistently meeting service delivery timeframes".

Translation: The organisation is completely stuffed. (Munted, for NZ readers.)

Fantome 27th Aug 2016 22:28

LB . . . . presumably little or none of the above comes from your own wild erratic fancy. If there is such an appointment as "Designated Aviation Medical Examiner (DAME) liaison officer" , what is his/her name? And is there specific contact detail so as to get in touch, for those at their wit's ends waiting to be "processed"?

Lead Balloon 27th Aug 2016 23:01

"Creating" a position is not the same as "filling" the position.

Clare Prop 28th Aug 2016 01:58

Fantome, it comes from here, CASA's Action Plan. Wank words and bureaucratbabble at its finest. http://yaffa-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/ya...Plan-20164.pdf

Sunfish 28th Aug 2016 05:51

…..and the management of CASA will keep doing what it has always done -buggeriing Australian aviation. The new positions are what is known in the IT trade as "smoke and mirrors" - diversions to make the "stakeholders" think that something is changing. It isn't.

By the way, you and I ain't "stakeholders" that title is reserved for hand picked representatives of the various Aviation associations. If CASA runs true to form as a bureaucracy, CASA will try to "capture" the stakeholders via privileged access to the senior CASA management as well as Mrdak and the Minister and play to stakeholder representative ego. Private dinners at Parliament house, Minister attending stakeholder functions, praise of stakeholders written into Hansard, etc., etc. are the chosen tools. You need representatives with iron self control and integrity to avoid the snares CASA will lay for you.

You will know this has happened when:

1) You complain to CASA and they refer you to AOPA, SAAA, RAA, etc., and

2) CASA delivers a new sh!t sandwich of regulations and your own association - the one you pay good money to for membership, explains that the sh!t sandwich is the best they could negotiate with CASA and it could have been much worse and that really the sandwich is tasty and nourishing despite the smell.

This situation is exactly what transpires with Yachting Australia that changed from being a members mouthpiece to a Government one.

Frank Arouet 28th Aug 2016 07:08

Skidmore resigns. Well that is a positive for the man.


Skidmore resigns. Well that's not necessarily a positive for GA.


Skidmore resigns. Here we go again.


Someone will wake up one day and realize what's gone wrong time after time after time and will continue until someone realizes where the problem lies.

binglebailey 28th Aug 2016 11:48


Originally Posted by Frank Arouet (Post 9488187)
Skidmore resigns. Well that is a positive for the man.


Skidmore resigns. Well that's not necessarily a positive for GA.


Skidmore resigns. Here we go again.


Someone will wake up one day and realize what's gone wrong time after time after time and will continue until someone realizes where the problem lies.

And where exactly is that?

Sunfish 28th Aug 2016 22:34

The problem lies in the fact that Politicians can see no votes for them in fostering Aviation and a lot of negatives for them when an aircraft crashes.

CASA is a creation that absolves politicians from all blame if a large smoking hole appears somewhere. CASA thus sells itself to the politicians as a provider of political insurance.

Anytime a politician queries CASAs seeming inefficiency and incompetence, they are told that if they meddle with anything to do with aviation, then the blame will fall on them when an accident occurs.

Wisely, politicians decide to leave CASA alone.

To put that another way, in America there is an animal called a Skunk. The Skunks natural defence is its ability to exude an absolutely horrible smell when threatened. Wisely, all other animals leave Skunks alone.

Frank Arouet 28th Aug 2016 23:56

The concept of Australia being a Democracy is flawed. Australia is a "Bureaucracy" in the true sense of Sir Humphrey, and therefor there is no political solution to the CAsA conundrum. It doesn't take much digging to see who the powerbrokers are. Until this hurdle is behind us nothing is going to change. Sans a war, and the implementation of The Army Act, a more robust political without personal agendas needs to be bred from scratch and inserted into the system where they can resurrect the dead industry.


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