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Spooky 2 6th Nov 2015 22:31

787 & 777 dual quals at Scoot
 
Do the Scoot 777 pilots also fly the 787 or are they single categories?

RAD_ALT_ALIVE 6th Nov 2015 23:26

No idea. There are no Scoot bases in Aus/NZ, so you might want to pose the question on another forum.

Spooky 2 6th Nov 2015 23:34

Thanks for the informative reply as I thought Soot was was a Qantas spin-off:confused:

Capt Claret 7th Nov 2015 00:15

Nope, it's an SQ spinoff.

Going Boeing 7th Nov 2015 00:15

Scoot is a LCC subsidiary of Singapore Airlines and was set up to tackle the Qantas subsidiary Jetstar (in its many forms). SQ was particularly peaved when JQ Asia was set up based in Singapore.

PoppaJo 7th Nov 2015 02:35

Scoot Singapore has now just phased out the 777.

It's an all 787 operation now. Crew didn't operate both either from what I heard.

Keg 8th Nov 2015 05:28

Isn't the 787 and 777 a dual endorsement?

c100driver 8th Nov 2015 06:14

Not in New Zealand. Seperate type ratings so far.

Mind you NZ CAA don't recognise the B737CL and NG as a common type rating so they are not exactly out there!

Skystar320 8th Nov 2015 13:45


Thanks for the informative reply as I thought Soot was was a Qantas spin-off
Damn - gotta clean my monitor now!

Pontius 8th Nov 2015 15:12


Isn't the 787 and 777 a dual endorsement?
It is for many aviation authorities but that does not mean the operators are necessarily taking advantage of the fact. I believe BA and EY were making noises about flying both but I do not know if they've gone through with those plans.

bangbounceboeing 8th Nov 2015 15:16

EY instructors fly both types with line drivers to follow in the new year.

Chocks Away 11th Nov 2015 13:47

No it is not a "common type endorsement" (B777/787) in Singapore (CAAS) as a few other countries have.
Scoot have you on either on 777 or 787 for ease of bonding you exorbitant amounts (~SG$87,000). No more crew on 777 as all were forced onto 787, now that it's an all 787 fleet (still a couple of 777s hanging around the area). Those who delayed resigning an ADDITIONAL bond went to NokScoot/Bangkok which had big labour law problems (no surprise their!) and is now crew by Thia's.
Happy Landings :ok:

Wirbelsturm 11th Nov 2015 15:09

It's a dual licence endorsement in the UK BUT it does require a 5 day differences course and has a minimum flight familiarisation requirement (once every 28 days I think) which would cause initial problems for BA due to the numbers of 787 aircraft.

The advantage of having dual rated pilots is now past from a financial perspective thus I don't see it happening.

Now, 787 and 777X, that's a different argument. :ok:

Spooky 2 11th Nov 2015 20:42

Show me just one operator that is doing this differences/rating course in 5 days. Boeing did it as a proof of concept, but I can't imagine anyone else trying that?

MakeItHappenCaptain 27th Nov 2015 17:10

Are any Airbus operators doing the same thing? (And that's with an aircraft that I believe was designed for flight deck commonality.)

planeloader 27th Nov 2015 20:53

CX with the 330/340 ?

sleeve of wizard 28th Nov 2015 09:09

Spooky 2, a couple of the airlines in the Middle East that have both are doing the 5 day differences course. Common type rating (like the 757/767) so no legal requirement to fly either within a set period, ATPL recency aside. :ok:

bermudatriangle 28th Nov 2015 15:38

type rated on the 787 and my license came back with 777 in addition. never been near a 777 so go figure !

Spooky 2 28th Nov 2015 16:33

Interesting as I'm sure that was bound to happen. Can't believe any pilot group would put up with a five day conversion but what ever.

sleeve of wizard 28th Nov 2015 17:34

Don't forget that it's not just the pilot group that may have an influence, the local regulatory bodies have the final say as to the required length of course.
5 days is plenty if you put the work in, there are some subtle differences but there is also plenty of commonality. :ok:


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