748F into Wellcamp
 

A CX 748F will be the 1st international flight into Wellcamp Toowoomba later this month.

Jumbo jets into Wellcamp Airport bound for Asia | Chronicle

All they need now is to organise more regular combi flights, so they can take pax as well to HKG & elsewhere.

More work for everyone.

Combi 747-400's fly into HKG every day. Surely Wellcamp could support a once weekly 744 combi with roughly 250 seats.

From HKG can basically connect to anywhere & hundreds of destinations nonstop.

You're not fooling anyone BNEA320.....

ABC Landline covered Wellcamp airport last Sunday, and the owners mentioned international freight was on there list.

The Wagners business case
 

Is fairly solidly built around the business park subdivision they plan for the airport surrounds. Pretty much like all airports.
Good luck to them and they really should be allowed to build Badgery's and save the taxpayer a $trillion or so.

Name the operators who fly combis into HKG every day...

WHAT'S ON THAT FREIGHTER ?
 

OK = What's the inbound cargo to Wellcamp going to be :confused:

OK = What's the outbound cargo to Hong Kong going to be :confused:

If it's stock from the Darling Downs = THAT COULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE PRODUCE :eek:

We do wish the project down there all the very best :ok: :ok: :ok:

The plan was always to run fresh produce straight into Asia via the business park. The airport will also side on to the highway (freeway?), being built, going straight past it making it easier to bring South and West QLD and Northern NSW produce directly to the airport for overseas transport. The master plan for the apron area at Welcamp is HUGE.
What will, however, be interesting is watching aircraft trying to line up with the runway at the minima on the offset RNAV into 12. They may also need to fix up the PAPI on 12 before they try and get a 747 in there, it has been showing a fly up indication now for about 1 year.

What's the inbound cargo to Wellcamp going to be
 

DoC.
A lot of the Chinese money looking at Australia is from logistics companies.
They are looking for cheap hubs that bypass the capital city airports, and that hook into domestic road and rail. Think of this as the trial that Parkes would have killed for for 20 years ago with all it's' freight hub' talk.
Inbound loads will probably be cheap plastic crap and TV's eventually.
Enjoy the show, it's other peoples money and not the taxpayers for a change.

RNP-AR, my son! :ok:

Does anyone know if an engineering mod is available to drop the 747 below 20T? Would save a fortune on security screening.

Not sure a full RNP even exists for YBWW. The RNAV Y gives you center line tracking but the Z is only good if you drop out at the FAF, if you break visual at the minima then you have 0 chance of being stable by 500ft. RWY 12 RNAV-Y only available when Okey is not active.

RM, I surmise that if an operation will be a (Cathay?) 747, an RNP-AR would be created if needed. Or Oakey would "close" for the arrival...

There are a few RNAV-Zs around that require bat-turns at the last second to line up; "Except for 'minor' heading changes to get/stay aligned with the runway...". :E

I think my colleagues on the 748 that fly into places like JFK on the 13L Canarsie arrival at heavy weights 160 KTS IAS can handle a little offset......:D

Pulled up a few you tube videos, looks like fun!. Lit up like a Christmas tree, visual at about 2000ft but the plate takes you to 800.
Please don't mistake me of making this sound harder than it is, but the RNAV Z onto 12 (the most common approach I have flown) is the maximum offset for a straight in IF approach, if you drop out of cloud at 600ft AGL (minimum) you will have trouble lining up and being stable (unless your company allows for lower than 500ft stable approaches).
Visually I normally knock the approach off at the FAF and track straight ahead until on center line.

All that said you could just easily fly a circuit into this airport, but the powers that be thought that we would hit to many gliders if we did that:cool:.

Ummmmmm

I strongly suspect that the CX 748 will be crewed by CX Pilots :sad:

I think your post has gone over a few heads VH-FTS. I'm sure BNE320 got it though:D

RM, in reality, a lot of NPAs do just this: a VOR, for example, is very rarely aligned. Alpha Centauri will correct me, but I think that the offset angle is designed to put you on or near the CL (ie crossing it) at or near the MDA. One simple turn onto the CL. That approach has an MDA of over 580ft, so it would be similar to doing a VOR if the VOR site was located NNE of the field. RNAVs even conveniently show you where the turn-to-runway CL is: at Mike. Mike is at around 200ft AGL (0.8nm) which is closer than a VOR but that is probably due to the tracking accuracy. If you popped out at 600ft, you'd have over a mile/20+seconds to continue tracking across to the CL: do not turn straight to it otherwise you will get tangled up.

As for the Stab Approach criteria, these were of course "created" for straight-ins. Enlightened operators had lower limits to cater for NPAs/circling. Now that we are all beholden to the FSF 1000ft/500ft guidelines, exceptions have to be, have been and should be written in to your company rules to allow for such approaches with late turns onto the CL. Try doing a circuit when you have to be stable at 1000ft... ;)

Get out there when AMCS' mates do their route-proving and give us a report on how they go! :}

Not at all, I though it was very clever. :ok:

Cap'n,

This particular RNAV has you pointing at the threshold at the maximum offset. If visual, to get lined up on finals requires a left turn to intercept followed by a right turn to straighten up on final. It's not the typical offset approach with inbound track to intercept finals. Then, as RM said, you have to contend with the PAPI.

I just don't see that working. This approach puts you at the minima offset tracking 15 degrees, an easy fix in a baron, but in a 747? Think left turn 30deg at 600ft, followed by 45 deg right at about 200ft. At the FAF maintaining heading you will roll wings level at about 600ft onto center line, the rest of the approach will not take you there.
As NowThatsFunny says, .
There is no reason for this to be a hard airport to get into accept for Oakey airspace to the north (active at strange times) and some gliders to the south.

The RNAV Y, no problems.