There would be no disincentive from the company to train everyone on everything because there's the wage bill doesn't go up as a result. All the acrimony over training slots would be gone, all the crap everyone has to go through in the fallout of training selections. The taking up of union time in following up on those issues.

There wouldn't be a sly reason for a manager to punish someone who made a them angry or look stupid once upon a time - and we all work with people who has been punished by never receiving training ever again. In fact I dare say that is endemic within Qantas.

Just a few thoughts.

Good for you Domo (and the others), but considering how many have completed the training then those odds aren't too spectacular. There are a lot of new A330 and B738 licences that haven't been placed on Eq.

Often wondered that myself. Say a lame pay was ten bucks a week more than an ame who would take the extra responsibility, a few would but I think they be scratching for lames, the joke is Qantas spent all this money on an "A" licence program when lames would use a "B" licence obtained by the lame for free due to pay level lock out

Some SAM boys and girls have been turned on to back fill the cabo's, this 737 reconfig in syd project would never have gone ahead if not for free to the company external gained licences, enough work to keep 55 people employed for a year.

That is a good thing domo. Any extra work for Sydney is a huge bonus.

More to the question, what happens at the end of the reconfig? Are we going to have too many licences?

Same number of lames, more licences available

I certainly would not be worried about the Cat "A" guys causing any concerns in the near future. From what I hear it is taking up to 1.5 years to complete their OJT book. On top of that QF quality is taking 4/5 months to even look at the book. Add on that the tier 2 syllabus, has not even been approved by CASA and you are looking at a long time before any of them start signing a CRS.


As to paying for your own type course, I certainly have not got a problem with that, and have done so. Yes QAC has some grey areas when it comes to course content, but you get out of a study what you put in!!! If you look outside aviation there is not many companies that you get "paid to train" they want you trained and ready to go.

Are there any AMEs that have had external type training recognised lately?

What about the 380 SuperLAMEs that have trained themselves up on the 738? It doesn't seem fair that there's a type in the fleet that they're not licenced on.

Aren't you the negative nancy cool 1...

Maybe time to fly the coop and flap those little wings young fella. From your lofted aviation view you must have a fantastic view of that oh so green grass!!

Merely a question.

How long before QAC offer 787 training. Maybe we can sell them the training school.

you won't have long to wait: QAC instructors are in Seattle being trained as we speak.

Is Harry there in Seattle? Then we would get a cracker of a course.

Heard on the grapevine $18k if ya wanna seat,POC done by JQ!

From an outsider's view, I would doubt it. After 55 years in Industry I have never worked in an Organisation where there have been too many Licences.

One only has to look at the state of the AMEL coverage in GA to verify that there is no excess.

Chin up, and Heads held high ya all :ok:.

Regards, TBE.