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Hempy 27th Apr 2015 07:29

They built a train station under Tulla, it's still there but blocked off at both ends. Blame the cabbies..

PoppaJo 27th Apr 2015 08:02


They built a train station under Tulla, it's still there but blocked off at both ends.
It must be untrue. I just cannot imagine such insight and forward thinking by a government! :}

Di_Vosh 27th Apr 2015 09:18

PoppaJo

Absolutely! Remember the original Tullamarine "Freeway"?

DIVOSH!

B772 27th Apr 2015 10:10

moa999

What you are saying is the tax payers of Victoria are kicking in $12M. Only a fraction of the Victorian tax payers will be using Avalon.

Jethro Gibbs 27th Apr 2015 10:14

The tax payers of Victoria are kicking in $12M its madness .

TBM-Legend 27th Apr 2015 12:44

Avalon
 
Jetstar cuts flights = PPRUNE whinge

Jetstar increases flights = PPRUNE whinge

Govt spends money on aviation = PPRuNe whinge
:rolleyes:

no one 28th Apr 2015 02:38

Nicely said TBM

le Pingouin 28th Apr 2015 05:02

Ya forgot: Govt spends no money on aviation = PPRuNe whinge

The name is Porter 28th Apr 2015 07:15

So how does the government decide which companies it's going to prop up & which ones it couldn't give a rats arse about? Jetstar is such an amaaazing business yet it runs bludging to the government for support. Maybe they should sell their muffins & toasties on the corner of Elizabeth & Flinders to subsidise their amaaazing Avalon operation.

Ollie Onion 28th Apr 2015 07:39

^^^^ everything you said is bollocks! Jetstar doesn't give a cr*p about services from Avalon airport. Basically the entire LOW COST business model all over the world is built around going cap in hand to local airports for subsidies for an operation. Ryanair are masters of opening and shutting bases when local airports refuse to continue subsidies. I can imagine the local government responsible for Avalon have been trying to attract ANY RPT operator who is willing to provide jet services direct from Avalon. I would say that the response from the carriers has been 'no thanks, not worth our time', that means the only way to ensure the services is too pay some money. Make no mistake, without the subsidies NO jet carrier would be interested.

Out of interest, there are constant stories in the media regarding the allocation of rights between small regional airports and main cities, what is the difference between these subsidies and what has happened in Avalon??

Iron Bar 28th Apr 2015 08:12

Jetstar are very conscious of maintaining a "critical mass" of aircraft to maximise the economies of scale. This includes the international operations in NZ, Singapore, Vietnam, Japan and "Hong Kong" (Ha yeah right, wankers).

Anyway, they would rather keep a marginal or loss making, but subsidised route and keep the aircraft flying to maximise the efficiency of the whole operation, then make the BIG money elsewhere, allegedly.

TBM-Legend 28th Apr 2015 08:45

Subsidies! Let's not talk about the billions into a failed car industry or work for the dole subs and destroyers not to mention the unmarried mothers brigade!

A few bucks to keep a service? Trains/trams/buses all run a a big loss too and no whingers...

moa999 28th Apr 2015 08:46


They built a train station under Tulla, it's still there but blocked off at both ends. Blame the cabbies..
Complete urban legend

The name is Porter 28th Apr 2015 13:37


^^^^ everything you said is bollocks!
I agree. (I agree)

le Pingouin 28th Apr 2015 18:18

It's nothing to do with propping up Jetstar but all about propping up Geelong and retaining an amenity.

How many jobs does the presence of Jetstar provide for the locals?

How much is the amenity of having an air service worth to the locals?

There's the opportunity it provides for other things to develop.

PPRuNeUser0198 29th Apr 2015 09:33

Avalon was once a viable market for Jetstar. The early days. With Tiger operating from Tullamarine - this changed everything. The low-cost consumer who was prepared to travel to Avalon, no longer needs to.

Further over-capacity ex Tullamarine, drove fare levels down to within reach of the low-cost consumer - once again providing them with a choice.

Tullamarine offered the frequency that Avalon could not.

Jethro Gibbs 29th Apr 2015 09:46

How many jobs does the presence of Jetstar provide for the locals?
 
Avalon CEO claimed 300 a few weeks ago now the Gov claims 200 lol Doing what complete Bulltish .

PoppaJo 29th Apr 2015 10:11

50 people tops.

le Pingouin 29th Apr 2015 12:06


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 8959715)
50 people tops.

$1.2million a year for 50 jobs? Cheaper than being directly employed by the government and a whole lot better than a work for the dole scheme.

planeloader 1st May 2015 04:56

There is NO station under Tulla Airport,there are tunnels for maintenance but nothing the size for a station or train.


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