Qantas A380 in Perth emergency landing
 

Qantas A380 in Perth emergency landing

Nothing to worry about folks, Joycie's "fix on fail" strategy working as designed.

Qantas A380 in Perth emergency landing
 

Landing wasn't an emergency landing. Emergency descent, granted, but nothing forcing them to land before hitting minimum fuel.

Standard tabloid journalism strikes headline writing again, bad thread title.

Ok fair enough but it's not just running low on fuel that cause an emergency is it.
In fact in a Fire too much fuel on landing could be a bad thing!! Anyway I digress...

Where do they get this tosh from?

The ONLY time you can have too much fuel is when you're on fire!

Hey, Parliament is out and it's a slack time for the media.

Air conditioning is optional, after all, it's minus 60 degrees outside, how cold do you want to be?

It's just those bloody selfish pax who want to be able to breathe air containing just a little oxygen and can't go without for even fifteen minutes that create all this bad press.

Never mind - we'll cancel the papers so nobody knows!

Now, have we giftwrapped the iPads for the Chairmans Clubs Christmas Tree?

humans love minus 50°, they also love a lack of pressurisation.

That Andrew McGinnes guy is right on the ball eh? I suspect he was talking to a beancounter before he gave the interview, not an engineer.

Flying depressurized at 10,000' with no Packs isn't good for equipment cooling.
Things start to heat up....

Got to wonder what would cause a total failure like this?

What happened to the other/redundant systems?

The pax O2 system didn't do its endearing jack-in-the-box thing for passenger amusement, suggesting either a very air tight fuselage or, more likely, a descent performed while the crew was trying to regain control of the cabin pressure systems after a failure.

Clearly the cabin equivalent altitude never exceeded 14,000', or whatever the 380's pax O2 auto deploy trigger value is.

You must have a crystal ball that tells you you're not going to catch fire - when you load all that extra fuel.

Crystal Ball v.2.0 comes as part of the standard avionics suite in new-technology, low-maintenance, fuel efficient, self-maintaining, self-repairing aircraft, doesn't it?

So would it be normal practice to wait til you have reached your emergency landing airport before you start circling and dumping fuel, or should they have started dumping it 700 klms out so they could have landed immediately they got to Perth?

Pretty sure an A380 scheduled DXB-SYD with planned fuel for the trip but then making an unscheduled tech stop in PER isn't going to need to dump a drop of fuel.

What are you worried about the share price is up 12% today. Take a bex :)

VH-CHEER UP--- not necessary so, it may have still been above MLW but I would suggest not by much?

On the 77W there is a 100 tonne split between MTOW and MLW and takes about 12 hours to get down to MLW......not sure about the Dugong.

All this high drama happening right in GT's backyard.... did I miss his incisive expert commentary?


McHale.

Our ABC excels again .... :rolleyes:

From their 'news' web site today:

Qantas plane plunges 30,000ft after air conditioning fails

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/541254-16x9-160x90.jpg

They really are a bloody lost cause ....!:(

It would almost certainly have been above MLW on arrival in Perth..
The average Landing weight on a DXB-SYD is about 365-365T and with a fairly ordinary forecast for Sydney this morning the additional fuel would have taken that comfortably 370+. MLW is 391T, so with 3 or 4 hours to run it would have been about 400T at least....However Airbus allow landings above MLW in certain circumstances provided there's enough runway. This would qualify.

Just as well the works on 03/21 have been completed on time.....

Who? The ABC?
If so I would put it more like typical journos. They are unfortunately just going on what they are being told and probably don't know enough to have much of an idea as to the veracity of it. And of course, the editor in chief will be telling them to "sex it up".

I guess the headline "Sydney-bound Qantas plane makes 30,000ft emergency descent after air conditioning fails" doesn't quite have the same grab as saying it "plunged".

I heard another reporter from one of the commercials say last week that a flight which turned back en route to Port Hedland due to weather was a 747 rather than the correct 737. Just a bit of difference but they don't know enough to query it.

It was a slow leak with the crew making a slow decent to maintain cabin press'. Cause unknown at this stage. The cabin started climbing faster, thus emerg descent. Last hr and a bit at 10000, overweight landing PH but only a few tonne.

Sounds like a weird failure.

The flight has just taken off from PH to continue in VH-OEB 747-400

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Are we seeing n slight increase in small niggles now that some maintenance are being done in Dubai ?

Can't wait for the book, the TV movie (repeated every few months), the awards for bravery, the personal appearances, etc... :)

lol, funny you should ask that! Maybe Perth is the common factor :)

Qantas A380 in Perth emergency landing

Just saw this on Channel 9

Reporter: 'What happens when an aircraft's Air-conditioning system fails?'

GT: 'When an aircraft's Air-conditioning system fails the cabin gets very hot.':D

Genius

Not a good A380 day. QF7 SYD/DFW is just touching down in SYD. Air return.....

ROFL. He probably got that gem from the back of a cornflakes packet. :eek:

Oh, God no. Please don't poke the bear.

Worse, it was a Virgin 747! Heard it from the (Ch 7, I think) CEB's own mouth during the airport cross after the baaaaad weather.

This aircraft is maintained differently to other types. It has some of the most advanced Avionics systems in the passenger airline industry being maintained by greasers. Yes, the airlines and regulators have decided that the Avionics engineer is not required on this new game changer (good thing it was only a pack problem, reportedly). There are a very small number of them somewhere, but most transits don't involve them anymore.

A Virgin 747 Perth-Hedland ? Now, that IS going retro--(cue remarks on "all-747 fleet for Qantas")

VARA had a cabin depressurisation event, enough to drop the oxygen masks, on a F100 charter last Wednesday after an inflight lightning strike, which eventually resulted in a diversion to Hedland after a go-around at "XXX" in the East Pilbara.. I didn't see a single mention of it on the news anywhere, or was I not paying attention? Plenty of pictures on FB, apparently, and they should know better. There was external damage visible on the aircraft after landing, nosecone looked a bit sad. You would think it would have headlined as "Virgin FIFO jet plunges after mid-air lightning strike" or similar.:rolleyes: