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lotsta 22nd Feb 2015 07:05

Why don't you wait and give her a chance before writing her off? Sheesh you JQ guys are just so sensitive!

Hoofharted 22nd Feb 2015 08:27

GMFO quals
 
The GMFO at NAA holds an F100 rating (gained months after taking up the position) and does not fly at all. The DMFO has not flown for more than 6 months and it does not appear that he will for the next 6 months. It is rumored that the yet to be announced replacement GMFO has not flown a jet at all or had any experience flying within WA and the peculiarities of FIFO ops.

What both the current and replacement (rumored) GMFO have in common is that they are both the product of long Qantas indoctrination. Read into that what you will :hmm:

LeadSled 22nd Feb 2015 08:32

Folks,

I have known Georgina since she first joined Qantas, she is a first class operator, with a good track record.

Given her CV, I fail see what CASA qualifications she does not have for the job.

Would some of you in the know care to enlighten us!!

Tootle pip!!

Pinky the pilot 22nd Feb 2015 09:15

I really wasn't going to comment as I have never progressed to the exalted heights of the big Jets but given some of the recent posts....

I first met Georgina when she was still a member of the South Australian Police Force and was doing a Night VMC with the same Flying School I attended. And I have been kept aware of her progression through the ranks by fellow members of the "club' (it really felt like that at times, and an exclusive one at that:=) that was that particular Flying School.

So I endorse LeadSled's remarks 100%!

she is a first class operator, with a good track record.

Given her CV, I fail see what CASA qualifications she does not have for the job.
Good luck 'Georgie Girl.':ok:

Strewth 22nd Feb 2015 10:58


There would have been 2 people who ultimately made the final decision. I'll leave you to work out who they were.
Appears the regulator has called them on it.


I have known Georgina since she first joined Qantas, she is a first class operator, with a good track record.
One of many I expect, frankly this is not in question. What is, it would appear is the decision making process itself.

Flava Saver 22nd Feb 2015 11:30

Quit the bleeding heart emotion some of you. She applied. She was anointed. And she wasn't approved. So many appear shocked. Due process. Next. :rolleyes:

LeadSled 22nd Feb 2015 12:56


And she wasn't approved
Flava Saver,

Is that so! I presume you mean she was not approved by CASA. Do you actually have proof of that?? Or is it your wishful thinking?? What "CASA due process" do you think she failed??

CASA "due process" is usually nothing of the kind.

That would be an extraordinary move by CASA, to refuse to approve a company nominee of a major airline, for such a position, given that the "CASA required qualifications" are largely subjective.

We shall see what the future holds, she is held in very high regard by the parent company of Jetstar, and in my personal opinion, was an excellent choice ---- that would have been ticked off by the highest levels of Qantas management and the QANTAS Board.

Tootle pip!!

Part 121 22nd Feb 2015 18:39

Is this about culture or capability?

Would Qantas pilots readily accept an outsider as a CP, Say EK? What if they were JQ? :O

I suspect you would see similar rumblings

Con Catenator 22nd Feb 2015 19:19

Flava's on the money,

Emotive aero club assessments are hardly a valid endorsement.

Let's see whether she actually does the job of the current CP or is CP by name only, with others having to do the functions of the position.

If it's the latter, then why was the appointment made ?

Iron Bar 22nd Feb 2015 20:11

The "job" of the current Chief Pilot? Surely you jest?

RFN 22nd Feb 2015 22:37

Given the "months..." that it'll take for her 787 endorsement, her "time..." near the present CP's desk will certainly help her "eventually..." get CASA accreditation. Too many ego's riding on it..!

Capt Fathom 23rd Feb 2015 08:53

I've never seen so much angst over the appointment of a Chief Pilot before. Why are people here getting so worked up! :confused:

C441 23rd Feb 2015 09:17


Would Qantas pilots readily accept an outsider as a CP, Say EK? What if they were JQ?
I could be wrong, but the Chief Pilot position is now so removed from the average line pilot both physically and practically, that I don't think many really care who holds that almost ceremonial position.

DirectAnywhere 23rd Feb 2015 11:01


I don't think many really care who holds that almost ceremonial position.
Agreed. I don't even know who the Chief Pilot is at QF these days, or how many there are, or who my direct manager is. There are so many acronyms these days, base managers, HOBOs, HOFOs, Chief Pilots, managers etc. I have no idea who any of them are or what their role is.

Never had anything to do with Georgina but all of her pilots say good things about her, particularly during the RIN, as opposed to other managers who disappeared on leave for weeks. :mad:

Prince Niccolo M 24th Feb 2015 13:25

I'm confused
 
What are the mandatory prerequisites for appointment as Head of Flying Operations of any high capacity airline?

CAO 82.5 operations do not require a Chief Pilot per se so it is hard to imagine the basis on which she might not satisfy CASA, particularly looking at the standards and experience of those that they have anointed previously...

Is that good old Blue Shirt fanatic Mad Max still surviving in CASA ML? :E


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