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smug basher 2nd Dec 2014 08:14

Jetstar 787 diverts to Guam?
 
Apparently CNS - NRT diverted, reports of oil found on runway in Cairns. Anyone know any details?

The Green Goblin 2nd Dec 2014 08:24

Probably needed a quick stop to fix itself.

1a sound asleep 2nd Dec 2014 08:45

oil pressure issue. All safe

Shot Nancy 2nd Dec 2014 08:52

Hafa Adai.
Where America's day begins.

Ramjager 4th Dec 2014 09:15

They just cancelled the third JQ25 this week plus the returns not including the diversion which canned 26 due to curfew.
The Lemon liner strikes again.
Seriously its been in service for three years around the world in large numbers and its less reliable now than when it started.
I think QF should be glad the dumped it on poor JQ pax..

ACMS 4th Dec 2014 10:10

Really? Easy to say on this forum. Harder to prove....:ugh:

Iron Bar 4th Dec 2014 10:32

JQ25 30/11 Canx
JQ25 03/12 Canx
JQ25 04/12 Canx

Easy to prove.

ACMS 4th Dec 2014 21:29

3 flights out of how many 787 flights worldwide 24 hours per day?

Still proves nothing.

Show me the worldwide dispatch reliability statistics for the 787 then we can talk. Then compare them to previous new Aircraft from A and B.

Maybe Jokestar just ain't up to the job of running a 787?

Dingowalkabout 4th Dec 2014 22:40

ACMS, really, you make laugh...

Ramjager 5th Dec 2014 01:20

Delsyed again today looks like cancellation due tech issues.
ACMS if you have heard of flight aware go take a look at the three months operations of of Cairns since the 787 replaced the A-330 and do a quick comparison.
So let's see 3 engine changes plus how many delayed and cancelled flights?
Delta has now fully jumped ship. JAL as well. ANA has told Boeing it's not touching them again.
JQ are sending emails to staff I am told explaining they are "working" with Boeing to attempt to fix the cancellations and extensive delays.
Ok if JQ where the first operator in the first 3 months of ops maybe just maybe I could understand.
However the aircraft has been in service worldwide for what three years and it still has an AD grounding hanging over its head due icing problems.requires operators to flight in no higher than 30k in the tropics and how many miles off track.
It must be costing a small fortune.
In fact it's probably a large fortune.

Ramjager 5th Dec 2014 02:31

Ground staff friend just let me know cancelled again today..police at airport news crews on the way.
Dreamliner..not.

Jet Jockey 5th Dec 2014 02:56

I think you will find the J* crew finally taking the CEO,s advise on work,life balance and putting their families first this Dec. When you operate an airline on worlds best practise with minimum staffing levels it leaves zero flexibility when you have a diversion or delay. That compounded with crew losing the heart to come in on their days off might make it a December to remember.:ugh:

Overglaya 5th Dec 2014 03:11

Keeping with the facts, (of what I've heard),:rolleyes:

Diversion had nothing to do with the reliability of the aircraft.

Engine's have a number of issues but for the time being are having minimal affect on operational cost. (A/C carrying extra fuel for Ice Crystal Icing but still operating for the most part at optimal level).

In the words of someone else, "the 787 is an accountants wet dream." Does what the A330 does faster and burns less fuel/hr doing it.

Overall reliability has been an issue, but probably mostly due to teething problems of a new type and JQ's 'penny wise/pound foolish' approach to everything.

1a sound asleep 5th Dec 2014 03:35

Think about the people that have driven 500kms to get on a flight with 2 kids for a trip to Tokyo. 3 days in a row they have fronted up to be told no flight. $1000 in expenses and handed a $15 terminal food voucher . Even for those with insurance its no help when you are due back at work in 5 days time and are out of pocket $3000 in expenses and have to wait...

NO WONDER THE POLICE WERE CALLED

Boe787 5th Dec 2014 06:06

mate work for BA in UK,certified o 747 767 777, and 787, says the 787 quality is the worse he has ever seen on a boeing product!

ACMS 5th Dec 2014 07:04

Ok all good but show please me the worldwide dispatch reliability stats for all the 787's operating. If it's crap then I'll agree with you........

Jetstar are only 1 LCC operating the type, like I said maybe the cheap penny pinching managers didn't gear up properly....just a thought..


Until you can show me the official stats please keep your condescending smart assed comments to yourself.:ugh:

framer 5th Dec 2014 07:05


and JQ's 'penny wise/pound foolish' approach to everything.
Well I guess it wouldn't be too hard to compare JetStars cancellation/ delay rate for the 787 against Air NZ's rate if you had the time. Does anyone know if Air NZ are having similar reliability issues?

framer 5th Dec 2014 07:08


keep your condescending smart assed comments to yourself.
Bit childish isn't it? If we're freely handing out advice......... You should word your sentence in a more mature fashion to avoid coming across like a plonker :)

ACMS 5th Dec 2014 07:14

"Word my sentences in a more mature fashion"

I thought they looked pretty good meself actually.......made sense, straight to the point and factual.

What parts in my well thought out and written remarks confuse you poor Framer?

ACMS 5th Dec 2014 07:22

You guys need to read this article from July. I can't find anything more recent so it may have gone downhill but somehow I doubt it.

98.5% worldwide over the 160 odd fleet....

Airlines Singing Praises Of 787 | Commercial Aviation content from Aviation Week


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