Who can remember the other half of Eagle's ancestory, Air Central?


I flew with them heaps of times, mostly between Gisborne and Napier. I also flew with Eagle a couple of times before they, and Air Central, merged.

Yeah right, just checked out QF link prices on a 1 hour sector SYD TAM on a Q400 $277AUD plus $70 AUD tax approx. 380 NZD. Their fully flex fare was $490AUD plus tax just over $600 kiwi one way! There is no miracle cure to the regional issue, it costs!

The thing that does not get mentioned is that the council controlled airports never offer to reduce landing fees or airport rents to keep the incumbent operator financial.

The easy way to bypass the UE/ ATPL exam issue is to sit a few Uni Papers to demonstrate the required level educational standard.

at those prices if QFlink getting reasonable loads then they are making a good profit on these routes.


Better to look at a route like SYD/ABX where there are 3 airlines flying QF, VA & ZL & longer sector than SYD/TMW.


Had a quick look at VA & fares from $137 inclusive of taxes, one way.


Couldn't see the ZL fare, who would probably have lowest per seat costs & possibly lower average fares.

Don't you guys think that with 120 eagle pilots about to lose there current position that external recruitment would have stopped? I've heard from a source within link group that no external will get preference over an air NZ link (eagle) pilot

External has stopped for some time there has been no external interviews for quite some time.

The no external quote I believe is for the Jet Fleet, apart from those from the RNZAF but there's no more of them for awhile, due to their service bonds etc

Don't you think most of them will have enough experience to find something overseas? I would think at least half of them would be mobile enough to move and out of necessity many will.

Believe me there is a whole wide world of airlines out there, Air NZ is not the 'be all and end all' by any stretch of the imagination.

I know, was just a stab

I was meaning in NZ, but I hear you and I'm happy to move over seas if I have to, the only problem is where ?

I don't have 500 jet to get the expatriate jet jobs or the heavy, efis turbo prop command time for the one or two jet operators out there that will take international guys without jet experience.
In nz, Air New Zealand is the only way to get that heavy turbo prop experience (I drive a sub 5700kg turbo prop so doesnt make the grade)

Which overseas operator will actually take an foreigner, get them a visa and give them an entry level turbo prop or jet job ??

Being a Kiwi the only easy place is Australia, but who's ACTUALLY hiring there ? All I hear about is redundancies and / or zero movement.

If you can name me some international operators that would give a foreigner an entry level airline job I would be forever great full !

Not necessarily enough punters to do AKL, at least 5 a day from the forestry industry do Whakas to AKL then WGN so you won't get them. They'll go out of Tauranga or Rotorua on Air NZ.
Would like to see someone succeed where AirNZ have given up but it needs to be with something like a TBM700 or a KingAir. And the locals need to support it. Big financial commitment.

The real issue is the lack of population in the area. Whakatane has a catchment from the 2013 census of 34,400. If you take a 1/4 of the population is probably closer to Rotorua than the Whakatane airport that is about 26,000 people for the market.

Take a Beech 1900 with 19 seats at a 65% load factor at say 13 seats to break even for a single return flight per day needs over 9000 people to travel every year. That is 35% of the population has to fly at least once every year for an airline to survive.

The rough economics just does not work for a large operation! A small local operation with low overheads (cheap airframe, low staff numbers and low wages) may be able to survive but it won't be with an expensive TB700 or Kingair. Maybe a Caravan or a Navajo?

Virgin should be hiring soon.

Since when has the standard weight been 63 kg?

apart from those from the RNZAF but there's no more of them for awhile, due to their service bonds etc

Hahaha !!!!!

Yeah Iam sure all that Huey and ct4 time is well sought after.

... only if your Australian.....

Not remotely necessarily so, bro!

I wish.
The latest batch are all cruisers off the B777... they're not recruiting separately for VANZ anymore, it's all recruit to group go where they tell you... you'd probably have a better chance ending up on the ATR first.. :uhoh:

Absolutely gutted to hear this news, still have some good friends working at Eagle intergalactic airways:eek: Sadly it's merely a reflection of the general state of poo that aviation in NZ is presently in. Good-luck one and all, you are going to need it, particularly if you stay in NZ.

15L.

Small window to get VANZ now. Atr not in group yet.

Have to apply to Australia but put pref for Akl or Chc base.

Once atr on seniority I doubt any nz direct entry.

Apply to JQ NZ.

They have lost a few FO's lately to the sandpit.

$94k base
$97k base early next year.

Expect about 15k in overtime.

Irrespective of whether there will be slots available....you have to be in to win.

advert on afap for b1900 rated pilots based melbourne