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Seriously 2nd Nov 2014 14:00

Mate it'll be Ejet ex CBR to Wellington or Auckland. On the embraer that could be classified long haul. Hence the PER base closure, freeing up ejets for Tasman flying. Why do you think embraer has been working on EDTO 120 for the ejets? :D

clear to land 2nd Nov 2014 14:08

EK 2 x pilot SIN-BNE/MEL, KUL-MEL, BKK-SYD. Don't go to 3 pilot until flight time >10hrs based on seasonal average hence 3 x pilot (1 x CA and 2 FO) DXB-PER.

No Idea Either 2nd Nov 2014 21:46

I think the two crew thingy at Virgin will be for a return trip of about 14 hours. That is what they are complaining about.

Buckshot 3rd Nov 2014 00:54

Don't they (73) already do DPS returns and SYD-PER-HKT?

Berealgetreal 3rd Nov 2014 01:06


Mate it'll be Ejet ex CBR to Wellington or Auckland. On the embraer that could be classified long haul. Hence the PER base closure, freeing up ejets for Tasman flying. Why do you think embraer has been working on EDTO 120 for the ejets?
F100 would be cheaper.

Goat Whisperer 3rd Nov 2014 03:42


Don't they (73) already do DPS returns and SYD-PER-HKT?
No.

Unless you mean DPS-PER-DPS and even then cabin crew pax one/operate one. Pilots fly both.

grrowler 3rd Nov 2014 04:10

The longest duty possible at VAA is 13:15 for 2 sectors. With a 90 min sign on and turn around time I don't think a return to any of the speculated destinations would be doable.

ga_trojan 3rd Nov 2014 06:42


EK 2 x pilot SIN-BNE/MEL, KUL-MEL, BKK-SYD. Don't go to 3 pilot until flight time >10hrs based on seasonal average hence 3 x pilot (1 x CA and 2 FO) DXB-PER.
So local starting time is not a consideration? 10 hours two crew red-eye is starting to push it a bit.

Guess it helps that the regulator owns the airline:rolleyes:

donpizmeov 3rd Nov 2014 07:10

They operate in accordance with CAP371 (or whatever the new Euro name is for it) Trojan. Two tables, one for acclimatised the other for not acclimatised. Not nearly as clandestine as you seem to think.


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framer 3rd Nov 2014 12:27


Unless you mean DPS-PER-DPS and even then cabin crew pax one/operate one. Pilots fly both.
That sounds pretty tough, what is the flight time and turn around time?

ad-astra 3rd Nov 2014 13:25

1310 - 2320 sign on - sign off with an hour in Perth to turn around.

If you call it ardous then I think you should give the game away.

Overall the VAI 'lifestyle' is pretty good.

framer 3rd Nov 2014 22:43

Ahh it's not as bad as I thought then. Thanks for the info. As for


If you call it ardous then I think you should give the game away.
what a strange statement to trot out. Very strange. I think I'll carry on if it's all the same to you ;)

Berealgetreal 5th Nov 2014 10:54

Silkair brings quality to Cairns and underserved FNQ | Plane Talking

Expansion you say? Forgetabowtit!

jarden 6th Nov 2014 00:38

Good for CNS to have a direct service to SIN again since JQ pulled out years ago. Broome maybe their next port in Australia for Silk air, great to see expansion happening. They should go for a TSV to SIN service another unserved market.

Goat Whisperer 6th Nov 2014 04:43

Strange that Silkair will run "tag" sectors between Darwin and Cairns. They won't be able to fill those seats with domestic travellers. But if VA was doing the run for them they could.

BNEA320 6th Nov 2014 06:43

yes but they could sell DRW/CNS/AKL or DRW/CNS/another international destination from CNS. I think the rule is they must connect within 24 hours.


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