Last QF 767 passenger revenue flights December 27, 2014
The last flights of the 767 in passenger revenue service is now schedule for December 27, this year.
December 27 SYD-BNE QF508 SYD0805 – 0835BNE 763 QF501 BNE0500 – 0735SYD 763 QF517 BNE0925 – 1200SYD 763 December 27 SYD-MEL QF421 SYD0930 – 1105MEL 763 QF425 SYD1030 – 1205MEL 763 QF435 SYD1300 – 1435MEL 763 QF443 SYD1500 – 1635MEL 763 QF447 SYD1600 – 1735MEL 763 QF408 MEL0700 – 0825SYD 763 QF430 MEL1200 – 1325SYD 763 QF434 MEL1300 – 1425SYD 763 QF446 MEL1600 – 1725SYD 763 QF458 MEL1800 – 1925SYD 763 Always preferred flying on these over the 737 as a pax. |
Yes, even if it was just for the overhead baggage space, they will be missed domestically.
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Qantas are giving up a huge domestic commercial advantage over Virgin getting rid of the 767. Great pax appeal, dual isle, large overhead bins. Very silly move IMO.
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New Tourist Attraction???
With them all parked up in Alice Springs maybe QF should market them as a new tourist attraction for the red centre...:E:E:E:E
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Yes, even if it was just for the overhead baggage space, they will be missed domestically. The thing that passengers hate most about flying is "The Dreaded Middle Seat". Every 6 abreast row on a B737 or A320 has two middle seats (B & E) whereas, every 7 abreast row on the B767 has only one middle seat so that means a lot less unhappy passengers. The B763 is a lot better in turbulence than a B737. The windows in the B767 are at a more comfortable height to view out than the B737. The B767 cruises slightly faster and has less internal noise than a B737. |
And when fitted with winglets they're pretty good on gas. Just ask Air NZ and they seem to be doing something right.
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The 767 has been a true workhorse for Qantas, but they are all getting old and there are better airframes which can do the same job for less fuel-burn, and less maintenance, and make less noise whilst doing it as well. Still, Qantas will be changed forever once they are all gone.
Not having followed the recent history of Qantas lately, from what I read I am assuming they will be replaced by 737s, which would presumably be NG models. However, I can't help wondering what the state of play for Qantas would be today if their fleet had been reconfigured a few years ago to a mix of 777-200LR, 777-300ER, replacement of the 767s by 787s, and a forward program to replace the NG 737s with 737 8 Max and 737 9 Max. Probably worth keeping the relatively few A380s for a bit longer, but definitely dispose of the 747-400s...the industry has changed and what worked ten years ago may not work well enough today. The A330s came very cheaply, so work 'em hard for a few more years then sell them off or part them out. Still, such a fleet for Qantas is only a pipe-dream, sadly. |
I believe Pontius got his Pilate licence in one of these. Hope they go to a good home.
The Don |
The 767 has been a true workhorse for Qantas, but they are all getting old and there are better airframes which can do the same job for less fuel-burn, and less maintenance, and make less noise whilst doing it as well. |
The 767 is still the sweet spot for size, wingspan and utility. Like its sister 757, the '67 can make money on a 1:20 sector or a 9 hour sector. Yes, it has outdated technology, aerodynamics and structural weight. The current replacement aircraft are not the droids you are looking for however. Maybe the 787, but it seems to be more akin to the 330: ideal for a two sector day, not eight.
All of that aside, if you were to re-invent the 767 for Australian east coast service it would look just like the Bullet Train. |
But in 737 land,,,,,,,,Apparently if you squeeze the rear dunny, offer two wafer biscuits per passenger so as to cut down rear galley space, you can fit another 6 seats in, (bean counters think almost 767 numbers:ugh:)
Don't mention the extra 15 mins you require for everyone to try a store their legal baggage allowance, And for god's sake, lets not mention the freight! The smartest guys in the room. Don't worry, they will tell you! |
With them all parked up in Alice Springs maybe QF should market them as a new tourist attraction for the red centre... |
What is happening to the Tech Crews?
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It depends on their seniority. Some Captains are off to the A380 a couple to the 744, more to the A330, a handful to the 737 in Adelaide, and the majority are becoming F/Os on the A380 with a couple becoming F/Os on the 744 (their choice rather than the A380).
The F/Os are in similar circumstances. Not sure if any of them are off to the A380 as F/Os though. I don't think any current 767 F/O has seniority for the A380 as an F/O though I could be wrong. A few to the A330 because they have the seniority- some of them to different bases than currently, some to the 737. Majority into the backseat of the A380 with a couple electing to go to the 744 as S/Os instead of the A380. |
I'd be checking Flight Radar at around 0830 tomorrow morning Spelunker
I hear there are some Big Jets bound for Alice Airport. |
The 767 is still the sweet spot for size, wingspan and utility. Like its sister 757, the '67 can make money on a 1:20 sector or a 9 hour sector. Yes, it has outdated technology, aerodynamics and structural weight. The current replacement aircraft are not the droids you are looking for however. Maybe the 787, but it seems to be more akin to the 330: ideal for a two sector day, not eight. |
I hear there are some Big Jets bound for Alice Airport. Next after that is OGN, about 28th or 29th Sept. :{:{:{ |
But in 737 land,,,,,,,,Apparently if you squeeze the rear dunny, offer two wafer biscuits per passenger so as to cut down rear galley space, you can fit another 6 seats in, (bean counters think almost 767 numbers) Don't mention the extra 15 mins you require for everyone to try a store their legal baggage allowance, And for god's sake, lets not mention the freight! The smartest guys in the room. Don't worry, they will tell you! Domestic is heading towards a Low Cost Carrier dressed up in premium drag. |
Last QF 767 passenger revenue flights December 27, 2014
Heading towards? There is nothing premium about QF domestic. A cookie and a coke? A cold breakfast on a BN - DN flight?
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Don't forget the B767 caused a nice little recruiting drive for pilots as well.
Much movement in the industry, was created as everyone moved from instructing to charter jobs. Tonight on 60 mins a story on a B767 being ferried to the boneyard in the states. |
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