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Capt Claret 29th Jul 2014 22:44

New level of passenger service
 

Originally Posted by the ABC News web site

Jetstar has confirmed a crew member warned passengers returning from the Splendour In The Grass music festival about drug-detection dogs waiting at Sydney airport.

News Limited has reported passengers were advised to flush away anything they should not have, because sniffer dogs and quarantine officers would be waiting in the domestic terminal.

It is reported the announcement caused a rush for the toilets.

Some of those on board were returning home from the music festival at Byron Bay.

In a statement, the airline has apologised to passengers and says the issue is being addressed with the cabin crew member concerned.

Wonder if the dunnies clogged up? :8

PAXboy 29th Jul 2014 22:56

Shurely there mhust be shome mishtake? Sounds like the epitome of customer service. The CC should be applauded by all the pax!

601 29th Jul 2014 23:30

The FA should have done the opposite and not said anything.
Let the suckers feel the full force of the law.

KRUSTY 34 29th Jul 2014 23:34

Tounge in cheek I'm sure Paxboy, but assisting individuals in the cover up of illegal activity, I'm pretty sure is illegal in itself.

Just see what happens if the coppers catch you flashing oncoming traffic approaching a speed trap! :O

dr dre 29th Jul 2014 23:39


Let the suckers feel the full force of the law
Absolutely, let a bunch of young people get arrested, and receive criminal records for non violent personal substance use, a "crime" that'll only effect themselves, while the airline crew goes straight to the bar after work and gets absolutely intoxicated with various alcoholic beverages, a drug that causes far more health, social and financial damage than any funny pill or powder will.

Maybe the FA was wrong in their choice of words, and maybe should have been more subtle, but these passengers are not dangerous criminals who need to be behind bars
The hypocrisy of people who support the War on (some) Drugs is amazing

KRUSTY 34 29th Jul 2014 23:46

Oh dear!

Please tell me that was also tongue in cheek!

ad-astra 30th Jul 2014 00:28

Dr Dre

So let me get this right.

You're defending a CC member who knowingly assisted in the concealment or destruction of an unknown amount of illegal drugs of an unknown type, and justify it as an attempt assist these 'young people' maintain a criminal free record.

Do you also support assisting the drug pusher on board bringing home his unsold wares?
Do you also support assisting the serious drug users on board bringing home cheap drugs to sell in Sydney?

Maybe you advocate the CC sizing up the passengers during flight and deciding who they should have a 'subtle' conversation to because they look like innocent nice 'young people', and who they should just ignore and let the NSW constabulary nab.

Maybe you advocate the CC asking the nice 'young people' what they are carrying and if it is just 'funny pills' then have a nice quiet talk to them.

Your opinions on 'funny pills and powders' is truly enlightening!

If ever there was an excuse for RDT of aviation workers your post should be up there in flashing lights!

Jesus wept!

dr dre 30th Jul 2014 01:00

Ad-astra


You're defending a CC member who knowingly assisted in the concealment or destruction of an unknown amount of illegal drugs of an unknown type, and justify it as an attempt assist these 'young people' maintain a criminal free record.
No, "knowingly assisted" in the "concealment if a crime" isn't the term I'd use. If were the FA on that flight I just would have emphasised the fact to these largely young, uni aged post Splendour attendees that police drug detection dogs operate at airports just as they do at music festivals. The police aren't shy about releasing warnings of what events they will be attending to detect illegal drug use:
Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian
I would have omitted the "you can flush anything you don't want to get caught with down the toilet" bit, they should have been smart enough to get the obvious hint.


Do you also support assisting the drug pusher on board bringing home his unsold wares?
Do you also support assisting the serious drug users on board bringing home cheap drugs to sell in Sydney?
No to both, but the actions of any airline crew aren't going to have an effect on the drug market. If there's a demand for various substances, people will find a way to market and sell them, regardless of the law


Maybe you advocate the CC sizing up the passengers during flight and deciding who they should have a 'subtle' conversation to because they look like innocent nice 'young people', and who they should just ignore and let the NSW constabulary nab.
Well that's exactly what happens now.
Hey, sure it's easy to wait for a group of 18-20yr old uni students coming off the Splendour in the Grass plane, and yeah I'm sure a large proportion of them will test positive to or possess ecstasy or cannabis.

My problem is, if we are serious about the "War on Drugs", why don't we raid on a Sydney CBD bar on a Friday night? Or how about an end of year christmas party for a major business? Or whatever establishment the staffers from a political party go to after a long week? I assure you a large proportion of people at these places will test positive to or possess cocaine, but it'll be embarrassing for the police to have to march out a high flying middle aged banker, doctor, lawyer, politician or TV presenter in handcuffs.


Your opinions on 'funny pills and powders' is truly enlightening
It should be, go look at the opinion of a scientist or researcher, they will tell you the funny pills are less dangerous than alcohol:
Dancing with Molly

Now do I support illegal drug use, or addiction? Hell no. I would never advise children of mine to partake in the use of illegal drugs. Or I would never advise them to use any drug to excess (including alcohol) or develop an addiction

I guess my post wasn't really about the actions of this FA, and more a higher level thought about the hypocrisy I see in society regarding different drugs.
If I was made Dictator of Australia I would decriminalise most drugs (what people do in their private time that doesn't affect others is none of my business) and divert the resources from the police and the courts to medical health professionals in order to treat drug addiction, alcohol and tobacco included.

I guess most of us airline crew would hate it if the police cracked down on us having a few beers on a layover, just because some people are alcoholics.

KRUSTY 34 30th Jul 2014 01:04

Major backpedal!:}

dr dre 30th Jul 2014 01:24


Major backpedal
No Krusty, not a backpedal, just an observation. On how society treats possession of some substances that have potential to cause harm if used to excess or addiction (like cannabis, ecstasy or cocaine) as illegal, and other substances that can cause harm if used to excess (like alcohol) as legal.

Anyway my post has nothing to do with aviation, so I guess we should go back to the topic at hand. If this FA has breached Jetstar company policy that should be dealt with internally, and the matter should be left at that.

AerocatS2A 30th Jul 2014 01:30

FA probably had mates doing the toilet servicing post flight.

Lodown 30th Jul 2014 01:58

So now I have another reason to avoid flights on Qantas/Jetstar: not just an operationally permissive attitude to illegal drugs, but enabling actions so that potential criminal elements on board flights can avoid arrest and prosecution. Good one Jetstar!

(Yes, a little sarcastic, but the crewmember needs to face prosecution, not just internal discipline.)

ZFT 30th Jul 2014 02:22

So why do the likes of SQ, TG and others make cabin announcements that possession of illegal drugs will result in severe punishment up to and including the death penalty on their home base arriving flights?

mister hilter 30th Jul 2014 02:25

KRUSTY 34: Just see what happens if the coppers catch you flashing oncoming traffic approaching a speed trap! :O


That's a bit of a furphy. The cops don't charge you for alerting the other driver; it's a ticket for having your lights on high beam within 200m of another vehicle.

ad-astra: Maybe you advocate the CC sizing up the passengers during flight and deciding who they should have a 'subtle' conversation to because they look like innocent nice 'young people', and who they should just ignore and let the NSW constabulary nab.

Do you advocate for the incarceration of all those radio and tv personnel who disclose the location of radar/flash points on the morning drive to work?

Cactusjack 30th Jul 2014 03:25

Who cares, really? So a CC made a comment to pax about 'being careful with their stash'! So what. It's grass for f#cks sake. It shouldn't even be illegal. This is 2014 - Governments are bombing the innocent, corporate greed has become the worlds lifeblood, and marriage amongst gays has been accepted in most countries, the environment is rooted, politicians are crooks and pedophiles get looked after by judges.....and people are worried about 'pot' and/or tipping off the public? Christ, what a hypocritical Knit picking society we have become.

RAD_ALT_ALIVE 30th Jul 2014 03:31

Oh dear, oh dear.

A classic case of the ignorant preaching to the uninformed...

Stick to flying, kids!

Capn Bloggs 30th Jul 2014 03:47


it's a ticket for having your lights on high beam within 200m of another vehicle.
I hope the tower doesn't get CASA to fine me when I dazzle it with my 100-watters after being cleared for takeoff!

Keg 30th Jul 2014 09:18

Anyone who went to Splendour for the weekend at Byron and came home with drugs wasn't doing a very good job of it! :eek: :E :=

waren9 30th Jul 2014 09:35

anyone walking out of a lolly shop really shouldnt be too surprised if they get asked if they've got lollies

ANCPER 30th Jul 2014 10:52

Nothing illegal about warning drivers of a spd trap, but it is illegal to use high beam or use the car horn other than for safety!

Since when can police just come up to you with a drug dog surely that's an illegal search, don't they need just cause?


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