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Cactusjack 16th Aug 2014 03:41

Careful, all the 'Wild' fans will get upset with your for dissing their airline :=

Fugitive, if what you say is true then it really proves that the lunatics are indeed in charge of the asylum.

Toodogs 16th Aug 2014 06:16

Fugitive.

Are you taking about APNG or Skytrans with the sacking of Captains?

Ret Sabala 16th Aug 2014 08:27

I believe he is talking about A/PNG culling 7 or so experienced Captains so they could slot in some lower paid Captains who came in off the Twin Otter after they binned that fleet. Now they have quite a few pilots on sick leave and at least one resignation, with more to come I hear.
Hence they can't adequately crew the ambitious schedule.
Great Managment at work.

Cactusjack 16th Aug 2014 09:09


Great Managment at work.
I agree, once again the saving of money comes before experience and safety. Will they ever learn?
What do you think toodogs, is the ridding of 7 experienced Captains a safe and mature business decision?

socksfirst thenshoes 16th Aug 2014 11:17

Yes it will seem I guess in hindsight to have been a mistake to to ditch so many crew earlier on in the year. Silly knee jerk Managment at work I am afraid. One wonders what they were thinking at the time. You can't really blame the current CEO for it all though he did inherit a mess from Gary T (the absent CEO). But since he came into power he seems to have fitted into the job/description /requirements of a CEO in this organisation. You gotta wonder what the rest of the board have been doing while the Chairman allows all the mis-managment.
Oh well it's only money, they're still printing it 'eh.
Socks first then shoes
School for the gifted class of 63 same year as BB was born

Toodogs 18th Aug 2014 01:01

I was just a bit confused there with references to CASA and dispensations etc. - thought we were talking about Australia.

Cactusjack 19th Aug 2014 02:34

Skytrans no longer Taipans major sponsor
 
Unusual attitude and hail damage, no 'mumbo jumbo' in the below announcement;

Cairns Taipans unveils a smart move with new sponsorship deal | Cairns Post

What do you think toodogs, have they run out of cash???

Cravenmorehead 19th Aug 2014 04:17

Boy has this thread moved on since I last visited. Sounds like a lot of Turmoil.
Probably a good move by Skytrans to stop sponsoring that bunch anyway. The last sponsor went broke, (Pacific Toyota) not because of the sponsorship though.
Not much money in Cairns these days. The LNP has cut a knife through the public sector and the tourism industry is pretty sad because of the strong Aussie dollar, all the local businesses are feeling the pinch that is for sure, and I assume Skytrans is no different. I would hazard a guess that Airlines of PNG is being sold to fund Skytrans. I think they used the proceeds of the float a few years ago to fund Skytrans. They wanted to sell more but could not garner enough interest. How does that old saying go how you make a small fortune in Aviation? Start with a large one. But I am sure the Cairns economy will appreciate the cash that Skytrans puts into it down the track, while they wait for the great white hope Aquis, and the Chinese invasion. Great another casino.
Beside I suppose they still sponsor the Northern Pride, don't they?

Pith Helmet 20th Aug 2014 05:23

APNG announce new mining contract but the Miners aren't happy..
 
Latest announcement below (but there is a twist);

http://www.apng.com/News.aspx

The new services between Port Moresby and Lihir will operate 5 days each week, and those linking Kokopo and Lihir twice each week”

What Pinocchio has forgotten to tell everyone is that when the contract was signed off and the mining workers and locals found out about it there was almost a riot as these people are not happy. The APNG safety manager and other senior managers from the airline were rushed down to Lihir to try and calm the agitated masses who do not want an airline fraught with dangerous shortcomings with a history of crashing and deaths risking the lives of loved ones doing this service. I don’t blame the miners or the locals as APNG crash planes and take lives, its what they do best in the region! And now that they have cut costs even further by getting rid of their experienced Pilots and Engineers the situation is even worse. And lets not forget the miners also don’t want the silly MOFO, who is banned from being a CP in Australia, flying those well paid miners about in those outdated ancient Dash 8’s (I mean Crash 8’s). How does that rate on the risk scale, 5A?
As has been pointed out at the sister company Skytrans, they still cant pay the bills, can no longer afford to sponsor the silly Taipans, and even the ‘cough cough’ MD had to sell his precious Bentley to cull some debt and appease his family who aren’t happy about watching their precious inheritance being squandered on Armani suits and a snob car for cruising the streets of Manunda on weekends. And will the silver haired MD still have a corporate box where he can still sing and clap along with the rest of his ‘special’ family? Will the school teacher be concerned about the family trust disappearing, will she engage in some consultative management training, word polishing and corporate hi-fiving in an effort to turn all the misfortunes around (all for a very lucrative fee of course). What a farcical joke, lets just hope the other PNG mining contractors and Australia’s DTMR are watching this embarrassment.

Entrepeneurs yes, aviators no.

Cactusjack 20th Aug 2014 07:17

Decoder, hello, I'm here! And no, I am not he and he is not me. But thanks anyway :ok:
Pith is very naughty

SIUYA 20th Aug 2014 09:25


The APNG safety manager...
With all that's been written about APNG, eg.,


...an airline fraught with dangerous shortcomings with a history of crashing and deaths...
do you mean that they actually have a safety manager? :ooh:

If 'yes', and if the alleged dangerous shortcomings, crashes and deaths attributed to the outfit are true, then he/she doesn't seem to be particularly good at the job. :{

fugitive 20th Aug 2014 11:04

Fugitive
 
I am told that this Chief Pilothas been in the company for about two years now and is still not qualified with a PNG licence.
Why is he still able to hold this senior position and issue decisions on operational matters when he holds no proper qualification to do so.
Why is he here?:=

Cactusjack 20th Aug 2014 12:01

Very very good question fugitive.

Ret Sabala 20th Aug 2014 20:55

I think you will find he does have a PNG ATPL, but does not fly the line. Currently he is in training.
Previous he was rewriting manuals, a complete rewrite of the "exposition" and sorting out the sim program.

fugitive 20th Aug 2014 22:44

Fugitive
 
How can you have a valid PNG Licence to operate if you haven't finished training.This person has been up here for over a year and a half,even the slowest pilot would only take a few months to convert,that is unless you had another agenda.
The APNG pilots say that all he has done is to substitute his previous company's procedures.Hardly a recipe for a place like PNG,that is unless the operations manuals were poorly and incorrectly written in the first place.
The fact that pilots are leaving the company is not a good sign for any outfit,it is normally the other way around.:zzz

Cactusjack 21st Aug 2014 03:14


left his operation without a job for I thought for sure they were about to kill or hurt somebody.
Oh my that's a bit of a worry. Quitting as a line pilot to take up the option of unemployment because you were worried someone would be killed or hurt? Really?

Ret Sabala 21st Aug 2014 06:45

Fugitive, You can convert an Australian ATPL to a PNG ATPL you only have to do Air law and one other exam, I think it is called Airways. Then a medical and you have a PNG ATPL. Then you start line training, get up the company minimum requirements and you are checked to line.
Yes he did change the procedures, but doesn't ever MOFO do that to some extent. There was nothing wrong with the prior procedures they were nicked from a reputable Kiwi operator.

wheredidwhogo 21st Aug 2014 10:10

Cactusjack question.... are you a disgruntled ex flight attendant of Skytrans or APNG??

Cactusjack 21st Aug 2014 10:40


Cactusjack question.... are you a disgruntled ex flight attendant of Skytrans or APNG??
Why use the term 'ex'?

Cactusjack 28th Aug 2014 07:44

Announcemt on the 29th
 
Big announcement tomorrow! Will SW announce that he is investing heavily in APNG? After all he sold 6 Dashies at APNG and 6 at Skytrans, so the money from that must be going somewhere? Also the Bentley has been sold as well as the house in Cairns, so maybe they are heading back to PNG?


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