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cynphil 12th Feb 2014 04:58

Alliance Airlines in Trading Halt!!!!!
 
News for today!!!!:(

Monopole 12th Feb 2014 08:17

But not necessarily a bad thing.

Mach E Avelli 12th Feb 2014 09:26

So does that mean that the two Alliance aircraft I saw flying out of BNE today were not trading? What, then, free joyrides?

Monopole 12th Feb 2014 09:28

We are talking about trading shares, not operating aircraft. But something tells me you new that :cool:

Ultralights 12th Feb 2014 09:33

share trading halts usually occur before a company releases information to the market that could cause a significant movement in its share price.


Could be good, could be bad..

Silverado 12th Feb 2014 09:58

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2014021...2rfzx6nq8b.pdf

rmcdonal 12th Feb 2014 10:31

Looks like they are just getting ready for the half year results and don't want any leaks affecting the market.

DirectAnywhere 12th Feb 2014 10:40

About to be bought by QANTAS so they will have another pilot group they can pit against one another for the soon to be remaining dregs of flying?

noclue 12th Feb 2014 11:30

QF hasn't got any cash

LeadSled 12th Feb 2014 14:15

noclue,
Well named, you don't have a clue.
Right now, Qantas is sitting on just over AUD$3 billion --- you obviously don't read more than the headlines in their financial statements.
Tootle pip!!

noclue 12th Feb 2014 22:37

That has to keep the airline(s) running while AJ+co try to convince the gov to do something doesn't it?
What happens if the gov does nothing?
Whats the "backup plan" then?


QF hasn't got any cash -> they can afford to spend

1A_Please 12th Feb 2014 23:00

Given they have specifically referred to their half-year accounts, it may be that they are in dispute with their auditors who are threatening to qualify the accounts in some way. If this is the case the company has no choice but to suspend the stock until the issue is clarified one way or the other and a clear statement can be made to the market.

$3B in liquidity is not just sitting in the bank account waiting to be spent. It includes cash received for which services have yet to be delivered, undrawn credit facilities even though the funds are committed to capex etc. It is likely that this figure will be substantially reduced by the change in credit rating which means the $600M of credit card payments Qantas receives in advance of the flight being taken will now only be released when the flight is taken just like most other airlines.

Icarus2001 13th Feb 2014 00:53

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2014021...vl3gw3pljm.pdf

Pending new contract negotiations...

LeadSled 13th Feb 2014 07:26

1A,
To a degree you are correct, but the Qantas group is far from being a financial basket case just yet, but have no fear, "they" are working in it??
Tootle pip!!

ANCPER 16th Feb 2014 04:21

Profit downgrade.

ramius315 16th Feb 2014 05:28

LeadSled,

Noclue appears to have more clue than you.

When Moody's downgraded QAN it was because "''As a consequence, we expect these conditions to exacerbate an already high financial leverage....."

ie they believe QF is going to have trouble paying its bills. Not just the future jet purchases but other commitments. The $3B is not cash they have sitting spare, it is already (under)balanced against their liabilities.

LeadSled 16th Feb 2014 07:46

ramius 135,
I think you better check Australian accounting standards and ASE listing rules re. continuous disclosure for definitions of terms.
Tootle pip!!

ramius315 16th Feb 2014 08:16

Oh, you mean those same standards that allowed OneTel and HIH to collapse?

I'm quite happy with the ASX's rules for continuous disclosure Leadsled. I'm also quite happy interpreting the real intent of statements made. My BEc may be very old, but it still comes in handy occasionally.

By the way, the Middle East may be sowly taking over the world, but it's still the ASX, not the ASE. (Amman Stock Exchange.)

For the time being anyway.....:8

Mr.Buzzy 17th Feb 2014 08:24

Man, I wish I understood how this stuff works!

3bn? Is that the same 3bn that is stopping fleet and lounge upgrades? Or is it that awful 3bn that that keeps AJ in Canberra crying poor? Maybe it's the same dreadful 3bn sum that has stopped a dividend being payed to loyal shareholders? Maybe all the evil money, all 3bn is to blame for outsourcing and retrenchments?
200m loss, blame the 3bn!!

Man, having 3bn sure does blow!!

Bbbzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzb$$$$$$$bbbzzzzzzzzz

ozaggie 17th Feb 2014 08:47

Alliance trading halt.
 
Umm, excuse me? Wasn't this thread about Alliance?


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