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TIMA9X 28th Nov 2014 05:38



Frequent flyers hit as airline surcharges fly high despite slump in fuel prices


Qantas charges a fuel fee of $340 for a one-way economy and premium economy ticket to the United States, and $390 for business class.
On flights to Britain and Europe, it charges $285 for economy class, $385 for premium economy and $540 for first and business class.

Was/still is, "a nice little earner" I guess a few grumpy FFers will demand some attention for this matter in the not too distant future... possibly messing up the profit figures come Feb?..:rolleyes:

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...-it-seems-yet/


However for air travellers, including those who rely on Qantas and Virgin Australia, or for that matter own shares in them and salivate over the the thought of huge boosts to profitability, the short to medium term outlook is not quite that brilliant. Australia’s major airlines are like most carriers, holders of fuel hedging contracts that have locked them into previously ‘comfortable’ prices that are now highly uncomfortable, and it will take months, maybe running beyond the end of this financial year, for those now onerous hedges to expire.
If oil were to stay low, and lower than the adjustments to the value of the Australian dollar, the benefits to the Australian carriers will be substantial. The big losers will be the hedge issuing banks or financial institutions, a popular thought at any time.

waren9 28th Nov 2014 06:48

maggot

i think youve missed cfm's point. he's not arguing the wisdom of qfs investment. just the hypocrisy when they complain about other "state backed" airlines doing it

Qantas 787 28th Nov 2014 07:07

So the half yearly 'profit' we have all been working so hard for is effectively going down the drain by topping up a loss making business in Japan..........nice to know that they can sack hundreds of people but still waste money in stupid ventures like this.

maggot 28th Nov 2014 07:58

@waren9 yeah I think I'm connecting dots that dont exist. I need a beer, long ass week:zzz:

FYSTI 30th Nov 2014 04:31

Paging Sunfish, please pick up the white courtesy phone
 
Interesting little snipet from Friday's AFR. Emirates non-equity takeover looks like it is moving to the next phase. Nothing like having your own Intel operatives installed at the target. What decision or rule change could they possibly want from Canberra?

Getting the band back After five years working for Qantas's partner airline Emirates in the city good tast forgot, Dubai, Trent Mumford will join Andrew Parker's government relations team at Qantas in January. He will replace Craig Simonetto, who's off to Transurban. Mumford is clearly a fan of Parker (best known as the lucky bastard with a walk-on role in Kevin Spacey's House of Cards). He's previously called Parker boss at Parker & Partners and Emirates.
Rear Window, page 41, AFR Friday 28 Novemeber 2014

Mstr Caution 1st Dec 2014 01:13

More dribble from the Coolaid dispenser

Qantas Airways and Japan Airlines provided a combined equity injection of approximately A$114 million to Jetstar Japan. The investment will support the airlines growth including the launch of International operations in early 2015 - International ticket sales are expected to start before the end of this month - which will enable Jetstar Japan to make the most of the significant potential of the Low Cost Carrier market in the worlds largest economy.


Huh? Worlds largest Economy - Japan!

I thought Japan had the third largest economy by GDP behind the USA & China.

Japans GDP is about one quarter that of the USA.

blow.n.gasket 1st Dec 2014 02:35

It all makes perfect sense to pump more money into Jetstar Japan now that Japan is officially in Recession.
Kool-Aid all round to celebrate the next traunche of executive bonus'.

Troo believer 1st Dec 2014 02:41

Japan is the most indebted country on Earth as the Yen is devalued 15% as QE Nippon style works it's magic. Keep pumping in the cash chasing the rainbow but never admit their errors of judgement.

1a sound asleep 1st Dec 2014 16:00

Qantas facing more fines over role in air cargo price fixing cartel


Former Qantas head of freight in the US, Bruce McCaffrey, even served eight-months jail for illegal price fixing of cargo shipments. There's a few more I would like to see locked away

spelling_nazi 1st Dec 2014 19:24

You know who is happy though? Old skincare Bruce who reportedly still gets paid over 800k a year to keep quiet about the abject failure that is jetstar international.

simsalabim 2nd Dec 2014 00:07

Surely this can't be true? How is this $800k accounted
for?

The Green Goblin 2nd Dec 2014 00:38

Consultant fees?

FYSTI 2nd Dec 2014 00:42


Surely this can't be true? How is this $800k accounted for?
The standard method, "consultancy fee". No doubt the clause forbidding the release of any information to third parties without express written permission of the CEO or similar was highlighted prior to signing.

spelling_nazi 2nd Dec 2014 02:42

Well this is a rumour network, but...

A skipper of a charter yacht in the whitsundays had ol' Brucey on board and he was laughing and boasting to his mates and blatantly stated that sentence.

"To keep my mouth shut about the failure of the Jetstar business model as a long haul business model"

Feeling the love?

ohallen 2nd Dec 2014 05:32

If this is actually true, then it is complete bull****e and should be exposed. Any half decent employment contract would have had a confidentiality clause that would have had the same effect with NO payment.No wonder the place is broken.

spelling_nazi 2nd Dec 2014 08:00

Apparently , Brucey wrote a paper stating that the jetstar model was doomed to fail , and Alan was not happy , so Bruce "voluntarily" got into skin care, and was paid forevermore to keep the report buried.

Fits the facts we DO know

Clipped 2nd Dec 2014 08:09


If this is actually true, then it is complete bull****e and should be exposed
It's been exposed for years, for all to see. And the 'significant owners' remain patient, financial commentators uninterested and government, well, Chairman's Club, please.

ohallen 2nd Dec 2014 08:44

Well possibly in general terms but not the specifics.It is the specifics that will bring them undone. so journos where are you.

OneDotLow 2nd Dec 2014 20:29

At a recent love in, the new COO was asked directly why QF needed to have a specific return on capital before investment on new airframes, yet JQ Intl didn't turn a dollar and had the newest aircraft in the fleet. His answer was that he acknowledged the truth in that, but simply wasn't able to answer that question as he didn't know the reason.

Daylight Robbery 2nd Dec 2014 23:00

.... because Jetstar (Intl) is going to fly all the Qantas tail 787 900s that will come. Duh!

FYSTI 2nd Dec 2014 23:16


At a recent love in, the new COO was asked directly why QF needed to have a specific return on capital before investment on new airframes, yet JQ Intl didn't turn a dollar and had the newest aircraft in the fleet. His answer was that he acknowledged the truth in that, but simply wasn't able to answer that question as he didn't know the reason.
Because it was always a "Baffle them with Bullsh!t" justification for an outcome they had predetermined. Management had already decided to chase the Pan Asian strategy (lots of LCC aircraft = lots of leasing & third party opportunities for the those in the know). Even better when the businesses are run across multiple jurisdictions with complex accounting structures to designed to deliberately obfuscate. Then layer the language issues on top of that, & Asia is the looks like the golden goose for the chosen few.

"Until it returns its cost of capital" is meaningless gibberish that can never be tested in a court of law. Management simply needed a plausible cover story in order to justify the process.

OneDotLow 2nd Dec 2014 23:55


... because Jetstar (Intl) is going to fly all the Qantas tail 787 900s that will come. Duh!
I don't think it is quite that simple, Daylight. That will put pressure on the T's & C's though.

1a sound asleep 4th Dec 2014 05:59

Best news for a while

Alan has agreed to save on fuel costs sending OJA to the desert and will dump it on a Museum :} https://www.facebook.com/AirlineSafety

TIMA9X 4th Dec 2014 08:09


Best news for a while

Alan has agreed to save on fuel costs sending OJA to the desert and will dump it on a Museum
Indeed great news if true, did a few laps on OJA, love the old girl, she's a special bird, a great piece of Aussie aviation history that should be preserved.

Even I would forgive Alan if he goes through with this.. Wow, did I just say that! :):ok:

http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747...a/4630.152.jpg

CoolB1Banana 4th Dec 2014 08:46

It's a romantic thought but...

VH-OJA QF6024 08Dec LAX-MHV

That's Mojave, for those that don't know.

The only way out of that place is in the form of a recycled Coke can!

Beer Baron 4th Dec 2014 10:18

Looks like the sale is off CoolB1 and it is going to a local museum after sorting through a few issues.

Collando 6th Dec 2014 09:54

OJA
 
Having worked on OJA over many years, I have to say it was in great condition compared to some of the other 400s in the fleet and always seemed to have less problems to rectify than some of the newer 400s, perhaps because most common problems had already been sorted.
It was and remains one of Queens of the sky !

IsDon 6th Dec 2014 13:24

OJA Definitely going to Albion Park
 
Heard it personally from Alan Joyce this evening at the 767 farewell function. :)

Not saying there may not be some possibility of an unseen hurdle cropping up to stop it happening but the intention is 100% to park it at HARS.

denabol 6th Dec 2014 19:17

As a non-pilot, is it possible to safely land a presumably almost empty 747 at Albion Park, and once in, is there any way to fly it out?

It seemed hairy enough to me making a few trips in the Qantas Dash 8 before that service was cancelled.

IsDon 6th Dec 2014 20:51


As a non-pilot, is it possible to safely land a presumably almost empty 747 at Albion Park, and once in, is there any way to fly it out?

It seemed hairy enough to me making a few trips in the Qantas Dash 8 before that service was cancelled.
Shouldn't be a problem. Longreach is comparable, and higher, and hotter and they managed to land a classic there a few years back. The classic also had to have enough fuel on board for a diversion to Brisbane.

Once it's in there though. It's there to stay.

porch monkey 6th Dec 2014 20:56

Geez, Tima, I didn't think you'd be so easily bought....:eek:

Wunwing 6th Dec 2014 21:21

The problem with Albion Park is corrosion. IRA is not Longreach where the air is dry. At IRA, if you scrape a hole in the ground it fills with saltwater and the runway is only a short distance from Lake Illawarra which opens to the sea.


So if OGA is seen as a significant heritage item, its not the place to go to preserve it. If its to be just a tourist draw card then its the way to go.

Wunwing.

Troo believer 6th Dec 2014 22:45

They should mount it on a humongous pole out the front of the CAMPUS to remind all the wankers that they work for an airline that has aeroplanes.

Fris B. Fairing 6th Dec 2014 23:30

Troo

The "wankers" don't get it and sadly they never will. Hopefully OJA is to be preserved because true believers with beating hearts want to see part of the company's heritage preserved, not because some psychopath thinks; "This'll make me look good".

spelling_nazi 7th Dec 2014 00:25

Went to the "campus" recently and up to information desk and asked what floor flight ops is on these days. Quizzical looks from the desk person .... "Not sure I've heard of them , what do they do ?"

Sigh .

TIMA9X 7th Dec 2014 17:40


Hopefully OJA is to be preserved because true believers with beating hearts want to see part of the company's heritage preserved
Thanks Fris B. Fairing, well said, I admit to having one of those hearts! There is a lot of Aviation history in OJA and I'm a huge supporter in preserving the Qantas heritage, as an Aussie, I'm proud of it!




Spent a lot of time sitting on the QFI 744s SYD/LHR, gained a lot of respect for them and their crews over the years. It would be a shame to see OJA looking like this at Victorville. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y...0000a-vivt.JPG

Albion Park would be a fitting home for OJA, great exposure for the Qantas brand and good for the Local business community, a wonderful "gift to Wollongong" from our National carrier. A win win for all of us.

Transition Layer 7th Dec 2014 21:14

Alan is actually VERY happy right about now...

Qantas flags profit rebound on lower jet fuel prices, cost cuts

Arnold E 7th Dec 2014 21:19


Alan is actually VERY happy right about now...

Qantas flags profit rebound on lower jet fuel prices, cost cuts
The man is clearly a genius.:eek:

Transition Layer 7th Dec 2014 21:48

The man is simply an amaaaaaazing CEO

VH-Cheer Up 7th Dec 2014 21:56


The man is simply an amaaaaaazing CEO
Yes, the way he has masterminded sustainable differentiated competitive advantage by manipulating the international oil price is nothing short of... oh, wait...


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